In Hell We Fight / TMNT x Street Fighter / You’ve Been Canceled
NEWS!
The Club talks about the new Birds of Prey series coming this fall on DC comics. We gushed for WAY too long about The Predator FINALLY becoming Marvel canon with the announcement of Wolverine Vs Predator arriving to LCS’s later this year. A hefty amount of first issue talk (duh) and decide once and for all who the main representative of the Street Fighter series is. Spoiler: It’s not who you think.
Comics!
In Hell We Fight - Image - W / John Layman A / JOK
Bettie Page - Dynamite - W / Mirka Andolfo & Luca Blengino A / Elisa Ferrari & Mara Angelilli & Tommaso Ronda
You’ve Been Canceled - MadCave - W / Curt Pires A / Kevin Castaniero
Steelworks - DC - W / Michael Dorn A / Sami Basri
OTHER TOPICS!
Patreon. Haunted Bed. Slice of Life. The Neighbors. Torrent. Dr Strange. Dead Romans. Spider-Man. Comicon. Last Ronin. TMNT. Sketches. Comic books. Jason Aaron. Valiant comics. Transformer. Girlfriend Material. Street Fighter. Deaths. Nior. Cult Shit. NCBD. Resident Evil. Break My Back And My Bed. Worf.
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Mike D (00:08):
Hello. Welcome to the First Issue Club podcast. We're your weekly comic book reading club where just like Sue Storm, we love a good read, and as the name implies, we're talking a lot of first issue comics, the most accessible kind, a jumping on point for new fans, a revisiting point for old fans. Man, the excitement of a new story, what's better than this? Tell me.
Greg (00:33):
I don't know. I agree with you. It's why I'm a co-host of this and my name is Greg.
Vargas (00:38):
I disagree, and that's why I'm a co-host and my name is Vargas.
Greg (00:42):
Ooh.
Mike D (00:42):
Such as the essence of the show that I so graciously host and I'm Mike D.
Greg (00:50):
What's up everybody?
Mike D (00:51):
Hey, nothing.
Greg (00:52):
That was a fire intro. It
Vargas (00:54):
Really was. Appreciate
Mike D (00:55):
That. This is a self-congratulatory segment we do every week.
Greg (01:00):
Applaud ourselves. Do the bare minimum.
Mike D (01:02):
We remembered the thing we always say
Greg (01:04):
And we took our antidepressants. We're all good.
Mike D (01:07):
I didn't clear my throat beforehand, so very scratchy.
Greg (01:10):
Oh, fucking amateur hour.
Vargas (01:13):
Look, if there's one thing that's important to a podcast, it's upfront branding. You got to nail the first 10 seconds, everything
Greg (01:20):
Else, and people are going to get bored and that's right. And jump off.
Vargas (01:23):
Nothing else matters.
Mike D (01:25):
This week on the Patreon, I uploaded a video of my new slabs that I opened. Woohoo.
Greg (01:33):
Mike D's Hallon slab edition. Got
Mike D (01:35):
A lot of stuff signed by Chris Claremont, Roy Thomas book signed by Chip Zdarsky.
Greg (01:41):
Never heard of him.
Mike D (01:43):
This
Greg (01:43):
Creator, creator of Batman. This is
Mike D (01:45):
One thing where Chip Zdarsky doesn't really do conventions anymore.
Greg (01:49):
No, he's starting to again, is he
Mike D (01:50):
Really? Okay. Yeah. I didn't realize that this was one where, so my daredevil number one from Zdarsky got a nine eight, which I was really stoked on because I was like, it's kind of getting rare and rare to be able to get your hands on his signature, but maybe this one anymore.
Greg (02:06):
Well, I mean he lives in Canada, so he is doing mostly league like Canada Cons. Yeah. And little shops around there. Will he ever make it to the us? I hope so. But it may be like a C two E two or a New York Comic-Con situation.
Mike D (02:20):
His line would be massive at this point. Yeah,
Greg (02:24):
You would. Yeah. You would think he's been off. He's been off Cons since Covid. Yep.
Mike D (02:29):
And has since done Well, I think since he stopped doing Cons, Daredevil and Batman both came out, right? He wasn't still doing them when
Greg (02:37):
Those started. No, it was Covid and then Boom. Daredevil. And then Boom. Batman. Yeah.
Vargas (02:44):
These creators come, they come into our country. They take all of our comic book writer jobs. That's why I support not building the wall. See, I
Greg (02:58):
Flipped it. Yeah. Break that wall down. Let's get more chips of Dar over
Vargas (03:01):
Here. More chips. St. Arkis, please
Greg (03:03):
Flip them scurry across the border and hang out.
Vargas (03:05):
You guys can have Rob Liefeld.
Greg (03:07):
Yeah. For free. And
Vargas (03:09):
We will take another chips. Darcy,
Greg (03:12):
If you want to see that video, go to patreon.com/first issue club. Also, over on the Patreon, we have a lot of more episodes and videos other than us showing off their comics where we are recording one tonight, where we have a few games to talk about and a few other variants that we've bought. So go over to,
Mike D (03:29):
We're not going to play games. We're going to talk about them.
Greg (03:32):
Yeah, we're just going to talk about games. All right. Cause I totally made a game then we're not going to play it. Yeah,
Vargas (03:35):
We're going to discuss the game. Yeah.
Greg (03:37):
I've printed off the rules of Monopoly and we are going to discuss if it is, you know, excellent, arbitrary,
Mike D (03:46):
Too long, too long of a game.
Greg (03:49):
Monopoly. Yes.
Mike D (03:51):
Don't have the patience for it. I've never finished.
Greg (03:54):
I think isn't how you win Monopoly is you own all four railroads. I don't think anyone discusses that.
Mike D (04:00):
Is that
Greg (04:01):
Really? I think that's how you win Monopoly.
Vargas (04:03):
No. That is not how you win Monopoly. You win Monopoly by taking everyone else's money. Yeah,
Mike D (04:07):
Right.
Greg (04:08):
Well then that's how, that's why that game is longer than risk.
Mike D (04:11):
I think. You ultimately have to own everything.
Vargas (04:14):
No, you just have to own the other people on the board. Just like in real life,
Greg (04:19):
I just go straight to jail and get a Netflix series.
Vargas (04:22):
Oh,
Greg (04:22):
Dope. That's how I do it. That's a great
Vargas (04:23):
Idea.
Mike D (04:24):
Who is this in reference to?
Greg (04:26):
I don't know. Tiger King. Tiger King. The kid who maybe killed someone but didn't. Yeah. Making a murderer. Making a murderer. Who? Orange is the New Black.
Mike D (04:35):
Oh sure. Yeah. That
Greg (04:36):
One locked up
Mike D (04:38):
Nice. Orange is
Greg (04:38):
The new Black. Jay is so hot right now. You don't even realize
Mike D (04:42):
Orange is the New Black and Making a Murderer. Were so long ago though, right?
Greg (04:46):
And the zeitgeist. Sure. But you know the timeless. Yeah, they were
Vargas (04:49):
Like five years ago, Greg.
Mike D (04:50):
Wow. Hot right now. As in the, this Millennia Orange is the New Black kind of kicked off Netflix, didn't it?
Vargas (05:00):
It was one of their first biggest hits. Yeah.
Mike D (05:02):
It was
Greg (05:02):
One of their biggest hits for sure. Yeah. I don't know. One
Mike D (05:04):
Of the first originals. Anyway, that was a big deal. Well,
Vargas (05:07):
Yeah, you got Sick Girls kissing. I
Greg (05:08):
Think Lil Hammer was their first actual
Mike D (05:11):
Wow. I didn't realize that was a Netflix thing.
Greg (05:14):
Yes. That was their first ever made in-House Pro product.
Mike D (05:17):
For some reason I thought that was HBO O because it wasn't tv.
Greg (05:21):
It just looked like it. That's why everyone loved it. Before we get too far into the episode, I want to give a quick shout out. I showed up on the Short Box podcast with our friend Boder to talk about the Flashpoint series and the cultural impact it had on DC comics and cinema and TV at large. On the new Flash movie coming out is basically lifting that story and putting it on the big screen. The Flash CW did. Its kind of version of Flashpoint on there. So shout out to those guys for having me on. Talk about that for a little bit.
Mike D (05:54):
I heard the movie's very good.
Vargas (05:56):
It is very,
Greg (05:57):
Which is odd. It shouldn't be good. Yeah. With everything that surrounded it in making it in Ezra Miller in his crazy ass.
Mike D (06:06):
Yeah. I think they just had a formula for fun and it was refreshing for people. But yeah, a lot of the reviews that I read were very much so. It's a complicated fun. Yeah. I don't feel great about loving it. Yeah. It's
Greg (06:24):
A tough pill to swallow.
Mike D (06:26):
Yeah. It's like in the back of your head, the whole time you're thinking this is problematic. When you should be thinking how, oh, this is so much. Right. So much comic book payoff.
Greg (06:35):
I've told so many people, I don't know if I'm going to go see this in theaters because just Ezra Miller is someone I just really can't support right now,
Mike D (06:44):
And I just hate going to movie
Greg (06:45):
Theaters. That is true. They always burn your popcorn. I don't understand it.
Mike D (06:50):
Even though tragedy feels good in a place like that, I don't know if I could do
Greg (06:55):
It. Do you like that commercial?
Mike D (06:59):
I'm not going to. Okay, so now we know. Super corny. Really dorky. The first time I saw it, it kind of got me.
Greg (07:08):
Okay. It
Mike D (07:09):
Kind of got me
Greg (07:10):
A little, I mean, it's been meed into oblivion. Yeah, right. It really is. This Mason Dixon line of just like, I love that commercial, or I fucking hate that commercial.
Mike D (07:20):
I think we got such a heavy dose of emotion and advertising during Covid stuff. And then when you started to see the light at the end of the tunnel and movie theater started opening up again. There was just a little emotion surrounding that. And Nicole Kidman's a great actress and did some good line reads in that. Yeah, no.
Greg (07:48):
Oh, NAR
Mike D (07:49):
It got me. Oh, that's another thing. Oh
Greg (07:51):
No. You
Mike D (07:52):
Always forget. Or at least I do that she's Australian because she almost never plays Australian.
Greg (08:01):
Yeah. Except in the movie Australia. True. With Hugh Jackman. It's a real movie. How about
Mike D (08:06):
It? And is Keith Urban Australian?
Vargas (08:10):
Maybe? Sure.
Mike D (08:12):
That's another one where he is just like, he's like a country singer, right?
Greg (08:14):
Yeah. Yeah. It's
Mike D (08:15):
Weird for him to be Australian.
Greg (08:18):
Weird
Mike D (08:19):
Country from country singers.
Greg (08:21):
Australia is a country.
Mike D (08:23):
Well, he got me
Greg (08:24):
There. Yeah. Checkmate.
Vargas (08:26):
I think that commercial could have been improved with two
Greg (08:31):
Nudity. I agree.
Vargas (08:32):
Two normal people in the crowd.
Greg (08:36):
She's a theater to
Vargas (08:36):
Herself. What makes it weird is that it's just Nicole Kidman in the theater.
Mike D (08:41):
You were zooming in on other people's reactions while she's doing the vo. Or at
Vargas (08:45):
Least if she
Greg (08:46):
Sits, shut the fuck up if
Vargas (08:48):
She sits down. And there's like other people in the
Mike D (08:51):
Theater,
Vargas (08:52):
Because I always got the vibe that like, oh, she's definitely watching a Nicole Kidman movie.
Greg (08:56):
Right. She's watching the others just like, man, I was good in this.
Vargas (09:00):
I was so good.
Greg (09:01):
Good day. I like to put this film on the Barbie. Anyway, so yeah, look out for that episode coming June 14th, right before the movie drops. And then do you guys want to talk about some comic book news?
Vargas (09:17):
Hit me with it. Big Boy.
Greg (09:18):
Have you seen that? Kelly Thompson has announced her new project that she's going to be doing and it's not at Marvel.
Mike D (09:23):
Birds of Prey. Birds
Greg (09:25):
Of Prey on DC
Mike D (09:26):
And Leo Romero is doing the art and I love,
Greg (09:29):
Love, love him. Fucking incredible. And she's slowly been dripping out who the team's going to be. So as of this recording, we have Black Canary, Cassandra Kane,
Mike D (09:41):
Two two that are like, yeah, fuck. Yeah. Makes sense.
Greg (09:44):
Three big Brata
Vargas (09:46):
Hell Curveball.
Greg (09:46):
Yeah. Huge curve curveball. And the fourth curve ball is from Wildcats. Yeah. Zealot.
Vargas (09:53):
Sure.
Greg (09:54):
Which is, she has the swords and stuff, right?
Mike D (09:57):
Yeah. I think they've got one mortar. It's a five person team. Yep.
Greg (10:00):
So we get our final reveal on Friday.
Mike D (10:02):
I think zealot, everyone was like, what?
Greg (10:05):
Yeah,
Mike D (10:06):
Anything is possible.
Greg (10:09):
Any guesses on who the fifth member will be?
Mike D (10:13):
I saw some comments on in the Instagram post from Leo Romero where they want to see one of the girls from Gen 13.
Greg (10:23):
Holy shit. And I was like, my brain would melt.
Mike D (10:26):
I was like, with the cast they've already got, if they threw in, I can't remember the name of the gal with the short hair with the purple highlights.
Greg (10:33):
Oh, right. I can't either.
Mike D (10:34):
But it's like she's got a certain vibe that the rest of the team kind of has a weird outsider indie comic feel. Big Barta. Especially Big Barta.
Greg (10:45):
Is
Mike D (10:45):
It Barta or Barta?
Greg (10:46):
I think it's, I have it. B R A D A. Barta.
Mike D (10:50):
Barta. Okay.
Vargas (10:52):
So I don't know. I could have been reading
Greg (10:53):
It. I don't know. She could tell me whatever she wants her name to be pronounced and I'll say, yes, queen. Yes. Yes ma'am.
Vargas (10:59):
Step on me. Mommy. Yeah.
Greg (11:00):
I think the fifth Nier should be like Tomb Raider or something. Just like something fucking
Vargas (11:05):
Crazy. I was going to say Tulip O'Hare from Preacher
Greg (11:08):
Now. Okay. You joke though. I know. That would be incredible. Death from Sandman
Vargas (11:14):
There. There it is. All DC properties.
Greg (11:16):
Yeah. Yes.
Vargas (11:18):
Oh. Oh, it's Silk Specter. That's who it is from
Greg (11:20):
Watchman. Oh yeah.
Mike D (11:23):
Yeah. It definitely feels like every announcement has been a little like, oh, that's out of, that's unexpected. That's even more unexpected. And then the last one you would kind of expect to be the most surprising.
Greg (11:40):
It's either going to be the most surprising or the most Okay, that makes more sense. Yeah. Yeah.
Vargas (11:45):
It's either going to be Harley Quinn or a new character.
Greg (11:49):
Right.
Vargas (11:50):
Created for the book, something
Mike D (11:51):
Like that. They
Greg (11:52):
Really don't have a person in the chair role yet. Someone who's at home base feeding them in. So you just
Mike D (11:58):
Going to have Oracle be the last,
Greg (12:00):
Could be Oracle. It could be. That would be pretty cool. I mean, who knows? I can't even think of anyone good that would be in that position. I was
Mike D (12:10):
Surprised to see the One Bat Girl Without the other, without Stephanie Brown.
Greg (12:17):
So yes. I wonder if that means that Bat Girls is wrapping up.
Mike D (12:21):
It is, unfortunately.
Greg (12:23):
Oh, bummer. Yep.
Vargas (12:24):
It would be really cool if they brought Bluebird back from Scott Snyder's Batman Run.
Greg (12:30):
Yeah, that'd be sick. That would be
Vargas (12:32):
Cool.
Greg (12:33):
Yeah. I don't know. It's, it's fun to speculate, but we won't have to speculate for much longer cause they're going to nat it tomorrow. I
Mike D (12:38):
Love these geums that we do.
Greg (12:41):
And that was Geums. It could
Mike D (12:42):
Be anything By the time we release this.
Greg (12:45):
Oh, Godammit.
Mike D (12:46):
It'll probably be known. Perfect.
Vargas (12:47):
Yeah.
Greg (12:48):
We'll be old news. The
Mike D (12:49):
Recording addendum reaction
Greg (12:51):
Show. We can edit all an apology video. We
Vargas (12:53):
Can edit all this out.
Greg (12:55):
Folks. We apologize for saying Tomb Raider was going to be in the New Birds of Prey. My next order of news, which basically kind of shuts every piece of news out because it is the biggest news hit of the century. Predator is officially Marvel Cannon with its team up with predator verse Marvel Predator verse Wolverine. It's a four issue mid a series that will reveal it. Decades old rivalry between one alien hunter and the mutant whose best there is at what he does. Here is the kicker. Yes. That sounds fun. Writing it. Benjamin fucking Percy. Yeah. The dude you want on this fucking book.
Vargas (13:33):
Do you remember when I said this is the book they should make?
Greg (13:37):
Yeah. On
Vargas (13:38):
This podcast.
Mike D (13:39):
I don't remember that. Yeah.
Greg (13:40):
Yeah. Won't you 100% said it. We'll go back and we'll pull the audio.
Vargas (13:45):
Yeah,
Greg (13:46):
Well Bill Marvel.
Vargas (13:47):
Except I think I said Ed Brisson should write it, which
Greg (13:51):
That's fine.
Vargas (13:51):
Yeah. What are you going to do? Yep. I'm allowed to be
Greg (13:53):
Wrong. There's their loophole. Yeah. I'm
Vargas (13:57):
Stoked about
Greg (13:58):
This one. I'm I'm fucking jazz because this opens the door for a million fucking cool V variant covers. Yep. And then if this is successful, which it is, it's a four issue series. I mean, sky's the limit now
Vargas (14:11):
Of
Greg (14:11):
Who Predator can fight and who and the alien thing can fight. Yeah. And then who Planet of the Apes can fight like, sorry,
Vargas (14:18):
Aliens versus Predator versus Planet of the Apes versus Marvel. Yeah. Put it in my veins
Greg (14:24):
Versus Marvel apes.
Vargas (14:26):
Okay. Now,
Greg (14:28):
Oh my God. Planet of the Apes versus Marvel. A Marvel. Apes
Mike D (14:31):
Too much. Too much Brans energy. Okay. I'm going to ask a very stupid question. I am not a Predator fan. Not on purpose. I'm not like, I hate it. Yeah. I just have never really been exposed,
Greg (14:46):
Not believable.
Mike D (14:47):
I just missed it in the cultural zeitgeist. Sure. Predator. It's singular. Is predator a species?
Vargas (14:56):
So the yaja is the species of predator.
Mike D (15:00):
Okay. He's
Greg (15:00):
Going to full stop on that. He knew, knew the alien race of the predators.
Vargas (15:06):
Yeah, man. It's part of part the Alien franchise. Six
Greg (15:11):
Times 213. No,
Vargas (15:13):
No,
Mike D (15:14):
No. Shoot, I knew they were, that's
Vargas (15:15):
Not my type of autism.
Mike D (15:18):
I knew they were related to Alien. Yeah. Or at least they like hunted alien. Correct. Because Alien were like the,
Greg (15:27):
They hunted everything. Yes. Some
Mike D (15:28):
Of the greatest game, right? Yeah.
Vargas (15:30):
A the alien
Mike D (15:31):
Aliens. The
Vargas (15:33):
Yes, the
Greg (15:34):
Xenomorphs.
Vargas (15:34):
The Xenomorph
Mike D (15:35):
Is Xenomorphs is a better way to put it. Yeah.
Vargas (15:37):
Is part of the predator like ritual of becoming an adult. You have to hunt a xenomorph.
Greg (15:45):
No shit. Chill
Vargas (15:46):
On. Yeah.
Greg (15:46):
Oh fuck. That's cool. That's
Vargas (15:48):
Part of their thing because it's like, did the
Mike D (15:49):
Species create the xenomorphs? No, because Xenomorphs were genetically engineered to be like
Greg (15:56):
Killers. Or isn't it like the big giant white things that we're in?
Vargas (16:00):
It depends on what canon you're talking
Greg (16:01):
About. Okay. Oh hell yeah. This
Mike D (16:03):
Is the stuff people tune in for. Yeah. And the stuff I like hashing out, spill it. Explain to me.
Vargas (16:09):
So there, there's
Mike D (16:10):
Basically daddy,
Vargas (16:12):
There's basically two schools of thoughts. One is that,
Greg (16:15):
Do we decimal me
Vargas (16:16):
One? One Is that the engineers, the big white guys? Yes. From Prometheus and Alien Covenant created the black goo, which in turn created the aliens. Yeah.
Mike D (16:29):
The Xenomorphs. This is how I've interpreted the story.
Greg (16:32):
So Xenomorphs are
Vargas (16:36):
Kind of the goo that created them mutates bodies into Xenomorphs. Whoa. Wow. And they're just kind of the accidental end point of these mutations. The other school of thought is the engineers found Xenomorph dna n a and weaponized it. So they found this apex predator on a planet. Yeah. Whatever planet it was got their DNA turned it into the black goo that they could drop a bomb on a planet and it
Greg (17:11):
Would turn boom, alien planet. Yeah,
Vargas (17:12):
Exactly. Boom. Alien planet.
Greg (17:14):
But so can these engineers control the alien species then? Because why would you make something that you can't control?
Vargas (17:22):
That is the ultimate idea behind.
Mike D (17:25):
Yeah. That's the lesson in it in
Vargas (17:26):
Prometheus. Yeah.
Greg (17:29):
As you can see, I haven't seen that movie.
Mike D (17:32):
It's good. I, yeah, I liked it. I think it had one of the best trailers of all time.
Greg (17:39):
It has fast bender in it, right? Yeah.
Mike D (17:41):
And I was so stoked for it. I think it could have never lived up to the hype I'd created, created for it in my head, but I think it was still a really great movie. I tried to put a lot of importance on it and maybe thought into it more than necessary, but I really enjoyed that movie.
Vargas (18:01):
Yeah, it's great.
Mike D (18:02):
And I think it's same director as the Ridley Scott, right? So it feels tonally a little more sparse. Like the original alien movie, which I really like. And then I love something that just kind of gives some vague open-ended origin. Yeah. That lets your mind run wild about like, oh, we're finding out important things about the creation of these myths and yada yada.
Vargas (18:34):
Yeah. I'm the
Mike D (18:34):
Same way. Really cool movie. Yeah. But predator is what we were talking about, right? I'm assuming the comics coming up, it's going to be like
Greg (18:47):
So it's set in the time when a guy
Mike D (18:49):
Like One Predator.
Greg (18:50):
Yes. It's one predator and it is set in the time when Wolverine is weapon X. Yeah.
Mike D (18:55):
Okay.
Greg (18:56):
So in that timeframe when he is just kind of running around the wilderness naked with just tech on him. Yeah. That's when it's going to be set
Vargas (19:08):
And it, I'm so, I'm so stoked for
Greg (19:11):
This. It's going to be wild. And if they don't make it just balls of the wall bananas, then
Vargas (19:15):
I mean Benjamin Percy's writing it, it's going to be so that,
Greg (19:18):
Yeah, there is some hope there. And I guess there's a multiple artists on this book, so I don't understand why that is, but maybe each new issue is drawn by a different artist.
Vargas (19:31):
It'd be cool if it was throughout the era because in the Predator movie, predators have been coming to Earth for hundreds of years hunting people, so it'd be sick if it's like
Greg (19:42):
That's what happened to Amelia Earhart.
Vargas (19:43):
Yeah. She actually, a lot of people don't know that got killed by a predator.
Greg (19:46):
Yeah. She was one of our apex hunters.
Vargas (19:49):
Some people think it was coconut crabs that ate her bodies. Nay.
Greg (19:52):
Nay.
Vargas (19:52):
Nope. She's actually fighting predators still. Still
Greg (19:55):
Fighting. Still fighting this day. Yeah. Yeah. I hear she's actually training them.
Vargas (19:58):
She is the predator. Yeah.
Mike D (20:00):
She's, because she's taken up the mantle of Predator
Greg (20:06):
DB Cooper also one of also
Vargas (20:08):
A predator. He got taken right out of the sky.
Greg (20:10):
Also a predator Al Capone's wealth that was used to be in the vault. In the vault.
Vargas (20:18):
Also a
Greg (20:18):
Predator. The became Cynthia,
Mike D (20:20):
The big bopper, the
Greg (20:23):
He went missing.
Mike D (20:25):
No, he just died in a plane crash.
Greg (20:27):
Everybody who's, everyone who's died in a plane crash becomes a predator. That's actually what heaven is. So, so take comfort everyone. Nine 11 was actually just a big
Vargas (20:38):
Trip
Greg (20:38):
To heaven. Exodus to heaven.
Mike D (20:40):
Well, oh boy.
Greg (20:44):
What are we talking about?
Vargas (20:46):
Wolverine versus predator. Yeah.
Mike D (20:47):
Yeah. There was a line of thinking there that I was excited by Wolverine through the Hes through the hes. Yeah. Yes. That you could have Civil war era Wolverine, fighting Predator. And you could also have, he
Greg (20:59):
Just keeps coming across
Mike D (21:01):
Him. Vietnam era Wolverine that would be fighting
Greg (21:03):
Predator. Be sick. Well, I guess that makes sense because Ward would spread. They're just like, okay, earth has this one dude fucking menace.
Mike D (21:10):
Yeah, right. Exactly.
Greg (21:12):
He is disrespecting all of our warriors. He killed Bruce like a chump.
Mike D (21:15):
Yeah. He cannot be killed. He just regenerates. Wouldn't that
Vargas (21:18):
Be so cool?
Greg (21:18):
Yeah, that'd be true. I really hope he fucking red. Yeah.
Mike D (21:23):
I've always thought, I remember when
Greg (21:28):
The Big
Mike D (21:28):
Bob Marvel got aliens that the brood in X-Men were always just fill in for aliens.
Greg (21:40):
Sure,
Mike D (21:40):
Sure. More or less. I don't know when the dates aligned there about when they were writing brood comics. It might have been like right after the first movie.
Greg (21:51):
That would make sense. That came
Mike D (21:52):
Out
Vargas (21:53):
That, I have no idea. But first movie was 79.
Mike D (21:57):
Yeah, it was probably right around the same time. But in any case, I just thought it'd be really fun if they just transposed like that and just had the X-Men fighting aliens on
Vargas (22:10):
Dude X-Men versus aliens.
Mike D (22:11):
She, our planet would be really fun. So
Greg (22:13):
The first time the brew appeared was Ankeny X-Men 1 55 in March of 82. 82.
Mike D (22:20):
So three years later. Yeah.
Vargas (22:22):
Totally
Greg (22:23):
Tracks. I mean, visually it's easy to make the comparison between the brood and Yeah.
Mike D (22:30):
And kind of how they take over your body and turn you into a we A brood. A brood. Yeah. Yeah. Very similar thing. They've got the brooded egg. Yeah. A lot of similar
Greg (22:44):
10 things you need to know about the Brood List.
Vargas (22:48):
Indian too. They are mean,
Mike D (22:52):
But I, yeah, I love Benjamin Percy. I think that sounds fun. If I was more of a Predator fan, I'd probably be so stoked for it, but at the same time, there's a hint of, and it's other ip. I'm not like I'm having a harder time getting totally stoked on it because of that.
Greg (23:14):
All right, check this out. The Brood are inspired by Aliens Xenomorphs. Okay. Chris Claremont and Dave Cochran thought the disturbing the design, an intention of the film Xenomorphs would be perfect for there it is. So confirm cam, there is some inspiration drawn from that.
Mike D (23:30):
Well, the funny thing is, growing up a child of the nineties is that you've associate X-Men that much outer space because we grew up on the cartoon and that's kind of how we got introduced to the X-Men. Yeah. And then by the time we were buying comic books, it was like onslaught and a lot of earth-based stuff. And as an adult, you go back and you're just like, man, so much outer space spotter. Did
Vargas (24:01):
They ever get to Earth? Yeah,
Mike D (24:02):
I know. They're just in space for so long. Why do
Vargas (24:05):
People still hate them? They've been in space for nine
Mike D (24:08):
Years and I do love that. That's during this Don of death of stuff that they're doing. They're kind of bringing that back and I thought Sword was really fun and putting mutants on Mars was really fun.
Vargas (24:24):
Risen Fall. The Shear Empire is one of my favorite X-Men stories.
Mike D (24:29):
I love that. Good stuff.
Vargas (24:31):
What else? What other
Greg (24:32):
News? That's all the news I have for right now. I mean, those are the two big bombs that I had and they were good. Kelly Thompson on new DC book and Predator is now Marvel. Candid.
Mike D (24:42):
Well, that's it. All we need is just a sentence or a taste,
Greg (24:47):
Just a hint
Mike D (24:48):
Of what's to come and we can rattle on for days.
Greg (24:51):
Yeah. We were built for the podcasting world, my friend. Let's get into the books we read.
Mike D (25:00):
I read Betty Page, numero Uno.
Greg (25:04):
Fucking so did I. You
Mike D (25:05):
All right? It is. I was like, what's a book that neither of you guys are going to read? That was honestly why I read that
Greg (25:13):
One
Mike D (25:14):
First. Well
Vargas (25:15):
Sell me on it Boys.
Greg (25:17):
All right. It's From Dynamite. It's written by and Luca Benino artist by Alyssa Ferrari in Mara Angel in Tomaso, Rhonda Mike. Take it away.
Mike D (25:30):
This comic book I would give to an eight year old.
Greg (25:36):
Absolutely.
Mike D (25:37):
And be like, Hey, here's a fun story about a woman who's trying to figure out how to have it all. And it was just a fun mystery that was very accessible. It was not given who is in the kind of books that she's written. I expected this to be a very juicy comic book,
Vargas (26:08):
So it was surprisingly horny.
Mike D (26:10):
Yeah. The only horny thing about it was the cover. Other than that, absolutely nothing. So it
Vargas (26:16):
Was definitely a dynamite
Greg (26:17):
Book. The whiplash I got from cover to content, I was just like, whoa, this does not match up at all.
Mike D (26:23):
And the art style is very cute, very fun. It reads like a boombox. Yeah. Comic. Oh
Greg (26:31):
Wow. Do you guys remember the book? Goldie Vance? Yeah. It kind of reminded me of that. Of just Teen Adventure. Yeah. Mystery book. And I wasn't expecting that when I picked up a Betty Page book, especially written by Merca, and I was pleasantly shocked and surprised. I loved it.
Mike D (26:53):
I think it's hard for dynamite to step away from sexy covers because I think they make a lot of money on that, and I
Greg (27:04):
Think they pay the
Mike D (27:05):
Bills. There's a lot of old heads who love pinup art and just buy these comics and their variance and they've got their go-to artists that people are fans of, and those people know how to draw women. I mean, for better or worse, if you like their style or the clothing they put them in and the positions they put them in, they've got that very specific niche art down and know what those kind of fans. To me, a lot of times I feel like it's to the detriment of the comic because I've read, I really enjoyed the Van Perella Red Sonya comic, and I would not have bought that if it weren't for Leonardo Romero's covers who did this cartoony fun pop art style with them that wasn't over the top. But I just love his art style. And then I read that book, and again, it's like they allude in those to a little bit of, Ooh are red Sonia and VA Perella being a little cheeky with each other, but they create this bond over time and they're friends throughout eras and decades while they're time hopping. And it's really a story of two women who are kind of immortal and have found this transcendent friendship that continues through the eras. And they always find each other. I
Vargas (28:47):
Can't wait until we're repeating this review for Wolverine versus Predator,
Greg (28:55):
The Love story we didn't know we needed. Yeah. I wish I knew how to equate you, Logan, you and your crab face.
Mike D (29:09):
But it really is. I think you sometimes see the women who are authoring these comics and you're like, why would you write this comic? It's like smut and it's disrespectful to women. And then you read the comics and you're like, no, women have been writing these comics and telling beautiful stories about friendship with women and power with women and all this great stuff in these books for years. But you just assume that they're trashy.
Greg (29:40):
Yeah. Yeah. It's us men who are the problem, who have written the smut previously.
Mike D (29:44):
And I, I don't know if it's the women behind the comics who are like, I want Erica Henderson to do a cover for this who started doing a lot of dynamite covers. And her art is fun and she draws very
Greg (30:05):
Whimsy
Mike D (30:06):
Curvy women and will do whimsical stuff and doesn't kind of go to those male gazey sort of art styles. And that speaks a lot more to the spirit of what's in the comic than the traditional covers do. And I don't know, it's hard to tell because there are certainly books at Dynamite still where you're just like, yeah, this is gross. This is just an excuse for
Greg (30:33):
This is to covers
Mike D (30:34):
Women to make out on the covers and on the interiors. And the people buying this Yeah. Are aren't necessarily pride L lgbtq like friendly people, but they're women making out. I do like that part of
Greg (30:52):
They don't have access to the internet, so it just makes you the
Mike D (30:55):
Buy book, get these grimy people who, but yeah, I don't know. This book was just refreshing because of that because it was just so surprising where I really expected, and I think Merca and DFO could have done something very horny with this, and I probably would've liked it too, because she's good. Great. Yeah.
Greg (31:16):
She's positive and knows how to write a sexy
Mike D (31:18):
Story, sex positivity. Right. And I think you could also probably tell a sex positive story with this character without immediately being like, where's the dicks in the first issue? You know what I mean? That's right. Ease into it. Set up a story arc first before you where
Greg (31:38):
The dick's at show
Mike D (31:40):
That this character's so sex positive that she's like right being horny all the time.
Greg (31:46):
And I think it's even kind of with Betty Page, it's even grosser because she was manipulated so much in her life to be this pinup artist and she was taken advantage of and her likeness was used without her permission. So to actually have a positive story with her name attached to it is just a nice bow to put on it of just like she's more than this sex pot that didn't really have much say in what happened. And now to give her more of some more agency and some more character it, it's cool. That's what I really loved about it.
Mike D (32:25):
And DFOs from Italy, and in this story Arc Betty Page gets taken to Italy because a director sees some photos of her and is like, I'm obsessed. This is my new muse. I'm going to put her in my movie. I don't care that she can't speak Italian. We'll just dub over her just being like, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah in the shots. Good
Greg (32:48):
Speak. Good Italian.
Mike D (32:50):
And then weird stuff keeps happening and her secretary is, I'm not really, I think something's wrong as afoot. And they inspect it and look into it a little more and they find a woman who looks just like her. Right?
Greg (33:01):
The twin.
Mike D (33:02):
Yeah. That's like the cliff hanger is like there's another woman who looks just Betty Page.
Greg (33:07):
So is
Vargas (33:08):
Betty Page a detective?
Greg (33:10):
Is that we're going to find out. This definitely has a weird mystery theme hooked to it.
Mike D (33:16):
I think that's kind of cool in this comic. It seems like the secretary
Greg (33:24):
Is going to be the
Mike D (33:27):
Velma who is actually interested in solving the thing. And then Betty's kind of like, I'm here for my movie and I'm tired of getting screwed on all these contracts and I finally got a break and Oh, don't read too much into it. We're having fun. But
Greg (33:49):
Then she sees her doppelganger and
Mike D (33:50):
Then she sees her doppelganger and things are going to go the other way, but the other woman is kind of playing the detective part.
Greg (33:56):
Yeah, I would agree with that. I was pleasantly surprised by this book to be
Mike D (34:00):
Honest. And then she's got her agent who is just money, money, money. But all right. Well, I'll look into it for you guys. But yeah, don't mess it up for the money, which again is if you're going to be true to Betty Page, having a man in the picture who's like, does that make us money though? Yeah. Is definitely
Greg (34:21):
Betty, does that make us money? But no
Mike D (34:23):
Sir. But I guess they handle it in a way that's like he's a fun character now instead of a depressing Yeah. Sad one. Right. But there's still a part of the her
Greg (34:33):
Story. Yeah. Cool. I read In Hell, we fight
Mike D (34:40):
John Layman right on
Greg (34:41):
Image's, comics from John Layman and Jock.
Mike D (34:44):
Oh, I didn't realize Jock. J
Greg (34:45):
O K. Yeah.
Mike D (34:46):
Oh, different jock.
Greg (34:47):
Different jock. This is a story about Journey Through Hell. Dope. And you get the setup of what Hell is and why these characters are there. And this main lead character that we're following was dragged to hell by a demonic frog because he was killing other frogs. So now they're just traveling through hell with this demonn that they've befriended to figure out how to take down the hierarchy and maybe eventually get out of hell. And it's very cool. It's a really easy setup for a number one. Some light exposition, some setup. The character designs really great. Each character of this three pack that are walking around, hell have an each unique personality. One kid is haunted by a cursed hatchet that's in the back of his head, and so whenever he pulls it out to hand it some to someone, a new one grows in its place. So he has an unlimited supply of weapons and there's this a girl who's always in control and very bossy and it was very cool. It was very fun. It was a typical John Layman book, which is not a it A Praise because every John Layman book I've read has just been an absolute heater.
Mike D (36:07):
Oh, the characters we are following we're killing frogs.
Greg (36:11):
One of them was, so it was kind of a, are we
Mike D (36:14):
Rooting for Ill will for this character?
Greg (36:17):
We don't really know. The kid just hates frogs. And so he was smashing a frog, a demonic frog showed up and plucked him with his tongue from Earth straight into hell. And so now we're just following them through hell. We don't really cheer for them or cheerer for them.
Mike D (36:33):
Okay. Not dead
Greg (36:36):
Well,
Mike D (36:36):
Living to hell.
Greg (36:38):
I think he'd die in the process. He doesn't look great.
Vargas (36:42):
Yes. Is this a died and gone to hell or is this a Constantine where he's still a living guy walking through
Mike D (36:50):
Not one. The rules of hell you said at the top of this. So we figure out what
Greg (36:54):
Hell is.
Mike D (36:55):
Okay. You got to tell us what Hell is the
Greg (36:56):
First ever six hour long episode in Genesis We are given. No, I'm
Vargas (37:02):
Kidding. Is this a literal hell
Greg (37:04):
Or a metaphysical Hell? I am in hell right now, left of the reader to decide. I'm sure we explained as the series goes on. Yeah, just have fun with it. It's a good time. Got it. Characters have some witty banter back and forth. The imagery of these big demons in hell is really cool out on Image Comics. I thought it was great.
Vargas (37:29):
Sounds dope.
Greg (37:31):
That's all I wanted to hear.
Mike D (37:33):
Did John Layman write Outer Darkness?
Greg (37:36):
Yes. Because it crossed over with Chew.
Mike D (37:38):
Yeah. Oh yeah. Did it? Yeah. That's really funny. Yeah, I really liked it and I never finished
Greg (37:44):
It. Outer darkness was really,
Mike D (37:45):
Really good. I need to maybe buy that one. In trade,
Vargas (37:48):
One of the best crossovers ever was nail biter
Greg (37:53):
And chew Nail
Vargas (37:54):
Biter. Chew. Yeah. Pretty sure they did that
Mike D (37:56):
Crossover. I love that. They did Crossovers with Chew.
Greg (37:58):
It's really funny. You should do that more often. It's very funny. I think
Mike D (38:01):
They did a revival too,
Vargas (38:02):
Didn't they? Yeah, that's
Mike D (38:03):
Right. Yep. Yeah. Really funny.
Greg (38:05):
So silly.
Mike D (38:06):
It's great seeing the A Jenny Frizz revival cover, but with two
Greg (38:10):
Characters.
Mike D (38:11):
Two characters. Yeah. Yeah.
Greg (38:13):
Just a chicken.
Mike D (38:16):
Jenny Frizz. Dude. Polio.
Greg (38:18):
I also read You've been canceled by Mad Cave. It is written by Kurt Pyres who did, its only Teenage Wasteland and Indigo children and
Mike D (38:26):
Oh, does this sound familiar? Did that come out this week?
Greg (38:29):
I believe so, yeah. Okay. I think so. And it's also, it's illustrated by Kevin. It is basically so said in the future, our blood lust for vengeance and righteous revenge,
Mike D (38:45):
Humans, blood lust.
Greg (38:46):
Yes. Has melded with our fascination with social media and television. And so now it's a American idol voting situ scenario where your life is put up on a screen of you've done all these deeds. We as a society have decided that you have been canceled as a person and these bounty hunters go out and try to kill
Mike D (39:13):
You. Oh, you know what this sounds like. I hate to sometimes compare comics and it
Greg (39:17):
Happens stories because I had the same thing.
Mike D (39:20):
Yeah. What's the one with the two gals who
Greg (39:23):
Are assassination? No, not assassination, but
Mike D (39:26):
No, it was also an image book. Ooh.
Greg (39:30):
Yeah. Because it's going to be a movie.
Mike D (39:32):
Yeah. It got optioned.
Greg (39:34):
Anyway. Yeah. It's similar to that of just one of the main bounty hunters that we,
Mike D (39:38):
Because that was crowd. It was a crowdfunding thing where you could crowdfund a bounty for somebody and then bounty hunters go after this person and kill them. She had gone viral,
Greg (39:52):
Crowded. Crowded. It was crowdfunded. Yeah.
Mike D (39:55):
That comic was great. Yeah. I think it was like a 12 issue run. Correct. I really liked
Greg (40:01):
It. And so it's kind of in the same vein as that one of these bounty hunters, his life gets exposed. And so now he has been canceled. Aha. And so now he has to escape his own cancellation. Clear his name or whatever. The artwork in this is fucking bananas. It is high octane balls to the wall imagery of these just bounty hunters, essentially just running through these city scapes, hunting people down, blowing their brains out. It is it crazy. It
Mike D (40:33):
Looked very Daniel Warren Johnson.
Greg (40:36):
There is some hints of that. Who
Mike D (40:38):
Is writing this?
Greg (40:40):
Kurt Ps He did Indigo Children and Okay. It's only Teenage Wasteland.
Mike D (40:44):
Yeah. Like him a lot.
Greg (40:45):
Yeah. He's also, I think he's an Amazon show out right now. Oh,
Mike D (40:48):
No kidding. Yeah. I will say that sometimes I'm wary of things that are a commentary on Cancell culture.
Greg (40:57):
I know what you're, okay, go
Mike D (40:59):
On. You know what I'm getting at? Yes.
Greg (41:01):
Is
Mike D (41:02):
That a lot of the people who are like, Ugh, I hate cancel culture, are people who have shitty opinions on women or queer people and said something on Twitter or whatever and are like, I got put to shame. And it's like, oh, because people put you
Greg (41:25):
In your place,
Mike D (41:25):
Make you accountable for the bullshit you say. Right. You're going to be like, think of how dangerous Hansel culture could become. I don't, and it's also been done a lot, I think. I feel for sure. I feel like we've just had so much sci-fi cancel culture shit already.
Vargas (41:47):
Yeah. Black Mirror did it. We can be done with it.
Mike D (41:50):
Yeah.
Greg (41:53):
Well, given Kurt's other books, his idea for this book was just like, let's take this idea to the nth degree of what if we were just allowed to do what if society was just all agreed upon of we can do this. This is a fun thing we do. We go to Buffalo Wild Wings and watch You've been canceled.
Mike D (42:13):
And I didn't read the book. And sometimes these maximalist takes on cultural ideas are really fun. I would just say, I'm hesitant to buy this comic because of that. That would be my reluctance to,
Greg (42:28):
And I think that name is purposeful. It's supposed to trigger a reaction from you.
Vargas (42:33):
Oh, trigger me.
Greg (42:34):
Oh, Jesus Christ.
Vargas (42:35):
Not a chance.
Greg (42:37):
Did I mention that? I'm in hell.
Mike D (42:39):
I'm no snowflake. Yeah.
Vargas (42:41):
Trigger
Greg (42:42):
Me. You lived
Vargas (42:43):
Tard cooks.
Greg (42:44):
I pulled a trigger in this town. Yeah. I'm a welder. My ball's dropping the toilet.
Vargas (42:50):
And I was born in September.
Greg (42:52):
Yeah.
Mike D (42:56):
I'm a welder.
Greg (42:57):
Yeah. What does
Mike D (42:58):
That have to do with
Greg (42:59):
Anything? You ever seen those shirts they likes? So yeah, I'm a welder. I don't have any filters and I say whatever comes to my mind. So I kneel at church and not on the flag. Yeah. Like
Vargas (43:14):
The best shirts of all time. Yeah, we get it. Yeah.
Greg (43:15):
You get 'em at any gas station, any flying. Jay, you can get one.
Mike D (43:18):
I get what you're saying. When I think welder though, I think like union.
Greg (43:25):
No, yeah, I know. But they can be gruff. You can be in the union and still be a shithead.
Mike D (43:33):
Yeah, I guess
Greg (43:34):
So. Yeah. Some of my uncles are No, I mean, that's fine. You
Vargas (43:38):
Could participate in something that's good for society and also hate society. Yeah,
Greg (43:42):
Sure. Yeah. That's why Q Eon exists. Yeah. The last book I read was Steelworks out on dc written by Michael Thorn. A k a wharf from Star Trek.
Mike D (43:55):
Yeah. I almost bought this
Greg (43:57):
Book in Art by Sammy Pare. The book was good. I say that as a, just let's get in front of that. Let's get that out of there. The book is good. Michael Dorn was given free range to write as many words as he wanted in this book. Oh, wordy. Okay. And he took full advantage. He took full advantage of that. No,
Mike D (44:17):
No room for
Greg (44:18):
Pictures. There are double page spreads where I'm just like, oh, okay, here we go. I had my highlighter out. I was like, yeah. Yeah. But the story it's telling is pretty cool of just like Steel is essentially just like, are we needed? Is the super. Yeah. Team needed Batman. Supergirl himself. Even he's his daughter. He's like, I can make these superhero bots and we can step back and let, let society and let Smallville kind of just take care of itself. Are we doing more good than bad with our powers? I guess he did
Vargas (45:00):
See Asia Voltron.
Greg (45:03):
Nope. He still has. He's at DV Yard still. Okay.
Mike D (45:07):
He didn't watch Robocop
Greg (45:09):
Shooting penises off. So yeah, that's kind of the line. It's going to be walking.
Mike D (45:16):
Well, that's interesting because there was one of the issues of this most recent action comics arc was kind of Lex Luther extending an and offered a Superman to be like, why don't you lead this privatized security detail firm that'll like enforce justice? And Clark was immediately like, Nope, not my jam. Yeah, we're not doing this. I'm out of here.
Greg (45:49):
I think you misunderstood what I'm about,
Mike D (45:51):
Lex. And it's interesting to hear someone from the super family be like, oh, maybe that is some of this private task force stuff is a good idea. Yeah.
Greg (46:03):
Well, and let's remember that Steel is a little different than all the others from crypto. Yeah. He got his powers differently, but mean he's still in the superhero is the Superman family, but he may have a different outlook because he has a different perspective of superheroes. He
Vargas (46:21):
Was a dude originally just like a
Greg (46:23):
Dude style dude, just a normal human. And then was thrusted into this world. And then he started his own company called Steelworks. And so his niece works there and she also has,
Mike D (46:36):
Oh, this, his niece, not his
Greg (46:37):
Daughter, so she also has these steel powers. So yeah, I mean, I'm a great book. I'm glad Steele has a book again, it's such a dope. It's a character that we don't really get too much stories about. So I'm interested to see where it goes. The artwork in it is incredible. Sammy previously worked on Harley Quinn, so it's cool. Dynamite artwork going on.
Mike D (47:06):
Dynamite. Yeah. Light the fuse of the pencil and let it rip on the pig and boom. That's beautiful. Art
Greg (47:15):
Boom. You got Steel Works number one.
Mike D (47:18):
I saw, have you guys been seeing all the swimsuit issue?
Greg (47:25):
Hell fucking, yeah. The variant covers for DC Yeah. Yes, I have. We've that
Mike D (47:29):
Again, it's summer again. So our heroes are taking their clothes off
Vargas (47:32):
Finally.
Greg (47:34):
Oh God. I love this season.
Mike D (47:35):
And one of the things I almost got tricked by is they are kind of related to this and they're doing cover issues of a lot of different characters. That'll be like, Harley Quinn's best covers Poison Ivy's Best covers the swimsuit issue, best variance. And I saw one for my Batman or Superman, and that was just like, I'm like auto buying. Yes. Action comics and Batman right now. And so I added one to my cart and And then was like, oh, this is just a is issue full of covers. So watch out. Cause
Greg (48:20):
They kind of cautionary tale. Yeah, they
Mike D (48:21):
Kind of read as it's an annual or a special or something. And really it's just a bunch of covers, which if that's what you want, then great. But I don't care for
Greg (48:32):
That. There's a great swimsuit variant cover out right now by who? In its Batman and Superman and Batman's chest hair is shaved into the bat symbol on his chest. And I love, I think she's an amazing artist and I always pick up her covers, but that one I was just like, God damn. That's super funny.
Mike D (48:53):
What made me think of this was Steele and his niece. Well, does she have a superhero name?
Greg (49:01):
She's also called Steel. She's just
Mike D (49:03):
Called Steel. Yeah. Okay. But her bathing suit on her cover was just the steel stuff, but had certain parts.
Greg (49:15):
Oh, missing
Mike D (49:16):
Left, exposed. Right.
Greg (49:17):
Oh
Mike D (49:17):
Cool. And so it was like this kind of cool techno looking, a straight line ridge of steel. It was like pixely the way it was shaped and its
Greg (49:26):
Oh, dig Bet.
Mike D (49:27):
Yeah, it was kind of neat. It was a cool design.
Vargas (49:29):
The j Scott Campbell one's probably my favorite.
Greg (49:32):
Which one's that? Yes, it's
Vargas (49:33):
Batman and Super or Batman and Cattleman laying down and Batman's reading a magazine. But the cover is the Bat Cow.
Greg (49:41):
Oh, so it's
Vargas (49:41):
Right over his and it's from a top down view.
Mike D (49:44):
Yeah. Yeah.
Vargas (49:45):
It's super funny.
Greg (49:46):
That's awesome. Yeah, I think I stupidly got the one because it's like two covers that are basically the same and one of them, they're all laying in lawn pool chairs normal. And then the second cover is Supergirl blowing her ice breath on Night Wing. And so you put 'em next to one another and they look the same, but in the one next to 'em, two characters are different and reacting to the ice breath being blown down his shorts and stuff. So I thought it was very cute.
Vargas (50:14):
That's pretty funny.
Greg (50:16):
Cheeky.
Vargas (50:17):
All right, books I read this week. First thing I want to point out is the new talent showcase for the
Greg (50:23):
Milestone. Oh, milestone. Hell yeah. I
Vargas (50:24):
Haven't read anything in here yet, but I want to point out this is 12 stories from 24 creators that are all up and comers. And it's like what? 80 pages?
Greg (50:38):
Square bound
Vargas (50:40):
It. It's $4. Yeah,
Greg (50:41):
That's how you do it.
Vargas (50:43):
So pick this up please.
Mike D (50:47):
You know how they made it so cheap
Vargas (50:49):
They didn't pay them? I don't
Mike D (50:51):
Know, sponsorship deal.
Vargas (50:53):
Oh, with Ally?
Mike D (50:54):
Yes, with Ally. They
Greg (50:55):
Put it
Mike D (50:56):
On the cover. Yeah. See right there.
Greg (50:58):
Now this is an interesting
Mike D (51:00):
Move, kind of a new thing for comics, right? You don't see that often.
Greg (51:04):
Yeah, that is a smart idea.
Vargas (51:07):
But I read the front matter in here, and what they did was they had artists and writers submit tryouts basically, and they picked 12 of each and ran 'em through a week long course of how to write a DC comic and basically said, okay, write something relatively within the milestone.
Mike D (51:34):
Yeah.
Vargas (51:35):
Cannon that's going on right now and go nuts. So it was kind of part talent showcase, part DC training exercise for these new creators. I
Greg (51:47):
Love that.
Mike D (51:47):
Yeah, that's a great concept.
Greg (51:48):
So that's almost like the Marvel Storm break's idea,
Vargas (51:52):
Except these are new people that you, you're probably following on Twitter and not Umo Ramos. Yeah.
Mike D (51:59):
That's the thing with the storm breakers are already like, wow, you've been cranking out Unbeliev stuff for years and now we're like, now we are christening you as like here finally
Greg (52:12):
Nick Klein's been here for 20 years.
Vargas (52:15):
So pick up the Milestone Initiative thing it worst case scenario, it's okay. And you get 12 stories for $4.
Mike D (52:24):
And I mean if, that's one of the things that I think is starting to become more of a collector's item thing is a first time a creator wrote for a big two publisher, or the first time they wrote, I'm sure with a lot of these creators, the first time they've had any comic published. So you got a hand ton of creators in there. If somebody hits and ends up writing something prolific later on, it's just cool to have one of their first stories. Right. As a collector, I can, Jason Aaron's like a writer. I love, can I get my hands on his first published comic? Yeah. That's cool.
Vargas (53:11):
And this will be a cool calm thing too, right?
Mike D (53:15):
Oh, you could get so many signatures on it. Collect
Vargas (53:16):
All those, all 24 signatures on here. Yeah, that would be sick as hell. Yeah,
Greg (53:20):
That'd be awesome.
Vargas (53:21):
Anyway, so pick that up. The books I have read yet so far, I read on Aw Sins of the Salton Sea by Ed Brison and CP Smith
Greg (53:34):
Salt team already.
Vargas (53:35):
Yeah. Great. I don't know what CP Smith has done, but the art in here was really good and it got this sick Tim Bradstreet cover. He did like those old gars, Jimmy Palm Palm Punisher covers.
Greg (53:50):
Nice.
Vargas (53:51):
So this is a crime story. A guy gets brought in by his brother for one last score.
Greg (54:00):
It's always one last score. There's
Vargas (54:02):
Always one last score and it always goes wrong. And it did. Oh, the hook to the book though is at least in the back matter material, there's going to be a supernatural twist to this. They rob a armored car and there's no money in it, but there's a woman and a kid in there.
Greg (54:23):
Oh no. Oh,
Vargas (54:24):
So they go to the guy who gave him the tip and he's like, yeah, I knew there was no money in there, but I had, you had to save this woman and these kids, we don't know why yet. At least in issue one,
Greg (54:37):
They ate all the money.
Vargas (54:39):
Well, so the book ends with the guy, everybody dies. Everybody dies in this book. So it's just him, this woman and this kid basically on the run from people that are chasing them for some kind of reason. And the back matter material in here says that this is a cult of some variety.
Greg (54:59):
Oh, nice.
Vargas (55:01):
Seems like a pretty cool book. Britain writes action really well, and this is right up his alley. It's cool. I don't know that I've read an Ed Brison like crime story. I don't know if he's written some in the past. I haven't read one, but
Mike D (55:19):
The Violent is incredible.
Vargas (55:22):
Is that a Brisson crime story? Yeah. Okay. So this might be similar to that. Yeah, if you liked that book, but it was great. It's on Aw, nice. Five-ish hu mini, like a lot of aw stuff. So not a lot of buy-in. Right. The
Mike D (55:39):
Other you love that about aw books,
Greg (55:41):
Easy investment
Mike D (55:42):
Is that I just like know they're going to be low commitment. Yeah.
Greg (55:45):
Is this going to go for 80 issues? Like what the fuck?
Mike D (55:47):
Yeah. There's a creator. I love writing one. Great. I'll order all of them on pre-order. I'll save 30 to 40% off of each issue
Vargas (55:55):
Except for anything stra zinski's writing on there. Right. He have his own universe in awa.
Mike D (56:01):
I don't buy any of the j Michaels stra Zinsky books just because the, I'm like, what is that? Yeah.
Greg (56:08):
Isn't he the new writer for Captain America?
Vargas (56:10):
Yeah. And I'm kind of excited about that actually.
Greg (56:13):
Really? I'm kind of leery because he's plagued with, I
Vargas (56:17):
Know
Greg (56:18):
Delays and all kinds of stuff. I know.
Vargas (56:20):
But if he's writing for Mar, I mean Marvel kick him off that book.
Greg (56:25):
I don't know.
Vargas (56:25):
Well, we'll see. I'm going to buy it. Okay. They already sold.
Greg (56:29):
Sold. Oh, okay. All right. We'll at least cover the first issue here. That's right.
Vargas (56:34):
But all right. Sins of the Salton Sea. That was the first one. The other one I read. Teenage U Tin Ninja Turtles versus Street Fighter.
Greg (56:40):
Okay, well who did this cover? This looks awesome.
Vargas (56:43):
I don't know who did this cover, but this is the one I want because 10 year old me wanted to see Leonardo fighting reu and on the cover.
Greg (56:50):
Okay, so did you read
Vargas (56:51):
It? I did.
Greg (56:52):
How is it? Oh, kind
Vargas (56:56):
Of. It's interesting. So the first issue revolves around a fight between Raphael and Gail.
Greg (57:04):
Nice. Which is
Vargas (57:04):
Cool. They don't set you up with all this like, oh, we must get the turtles to fight in the street. No, they're just in the street fight from the GetGo.
Greg (57:14):
So like bison and crane aren't like teaming up
Vargas (57:18):
At Baxter Stockton, but yes.
Greg (57:20):
Oh,
Vargas (57:20):
Okay. That's the team up.
Mike D (57:22):
Oh, you know what I heard this week? What? A lot of street fighter stuff making the rounds because Street Fighter six just came out.
Greg (57:28):
Hell yeah. Yeah, right. He's sick.
Mike D (57:30):
Did you know in Japan, a lot of the character names are transposed?
Vargas (57:38):
Yes.
Mike D (57:39):
Okay. So the M bison thing is He was the boxer. Yeah, he
Vargas (57:43):
Was ball rock.
Mike D (57:45):
Yes. Right. And really? Yeah. Yeah. And they had to change it because M bison was more or less a take on like Mike Tyson. Yeah, it was
Vargas (57:56):
Exactly Mike Tyson. Yeah. And they were like, we cannot have a boxer named M bison.
Mike D (58:01):
Yeah. So because
Vargas (58:02):
We will get sued.
Mike D (58:03):
Yeah, exactly. Right. So they change him to ball rod. Yeah. And then they make the other guy M bison the
Vargas (58:09):
Bad guy M bison. Yeah,
Mike D (58:11):
That's
Vargas (58:11):
Right. Yep. That's exactly right. There's
Mike D (58:13):
A couple other characters in there that have swapped names, but yeah, really interesting stuff.
Vargas (58:18):
That's the most famous one.
Mike D (58:19):
Yeah.
Vargas (58:21):
Yeah. So Baxter, Stockton, and Em bison have teamed up and what they're trying to do in this most recent tournament that presumably bison is throwing is to find guys with psycho power. And for those of you that aren't street fighter lore nuts, that's like they're trying to find,
Greg (58:39):
It's what Logan Paul has, right? He's got that psycho power. Yeah.
Vargas (58:43):
Yeah.
Greg (58:44):
Him and Kanye West.
Vargas (58:45):
Ezra Miller has a lot of psycho power
Greg (58:47):
Brimming with psycho power.
Vargas (58:50):
It's more like the Phoenix Force stuff from X-Men. Okay. Where only certain people can host the Phoenix. Gotcha. Yeah. That's kind of psycho power. So they,
Mike D (59:00):
It's people who can shoot Harkins energy blasts.
Vargas (59:05):
No. Okay. That's separate. Okay. That's a
Greg (59:07):
Different thing. That's not psycho. Yeah.
Vargas (59:09):
Psycho power.
Mike D (59:10):
How can we ask you so many random questions about the ins and outs of different properties? And you always answer, so matter of factly, the fact that your brain can hold all this nuanced fandom for micro facts.
Greg (59:28):
That's why he's so good on this show. Yeah, exactly. That's why he's like our friend.
Mike D (59:31):
Yeah. Because this is more like
Greg (59:34):
He's our Google
Mike D (59:35):
Vargas teaches Greg and Mike should be the show
Vargas (59:38):
Look man World
Greg (59:39):
According to Vargas any
Vargas (59:41):
More in this brain. And I wouldn't have a driver's license like I'm at
Greg (59:45):
Max
Vargas (59:48):
Bullshit.
Greg (59:48):
I'm going to have to start deleting files. Yeah. Yeah. Sent to the cloud.
Vargas (59:53):
Yeah. So it seems pretty cool. Anyway, the end of the story, they identify Raphael as a potential psycho power.
Greg (01:00:03):
Yeah, that makes sense
Vargas (01:00:04):
Guy. And presumably and Bison's going to try and turn him into a villain.
Greg (01:00:10):
Oh.
Vargas (01:00:11):
So
Greg (01:00:11):
That's cool. It's
Vargas (01:00:12):
Pretty cool.
Greg (01:00:13):
It's a mini right? Oh yeah. There's
Mike D (01:00:16):
No way That's an ongoing.
Vargas (01:00:17):
Yeah, it's an ongoing, come on.
Greg (01:00:18):
They have planned 60 issues. 60 issues planned. Listen, I D W was hemorrhaging right now they'll take whatever they can get as far as content. Yeah.
Vargas (01:00:26):
So I mean, it was pretty fun. Paul Aller wrote it and Ariel Mendel did the art.
Greg (01:00:33):
Sweet
Vargas (01:00:34):
Tom Riley did this cover.
Greg (01:00:35):
Sorry, that's a great fucking cover. Yeah.
Vargas (01:00:37):
So there's a lot of really, really great covers for this. Freddy Williams did one that is just like chef's kiss. Chefs kiss, but they
Greg (01:00:46):
Didn't have it. Chef chef's pucker.
Mike D (01:00:48):
If you had to pick a main guy or who's like the good guy of
Greg (01:00:54):
Tom Hanks
Mike D (01:00:56):
Aside from, aside from America's dad of Street Fighter. Yeah. Is it Ken? Is it Ra you? My brain immediately goes to those two. Yeah.
Greg (01:01:06):
Yeah. It's RA first. Sure. Yeah.
Mike D (01:01:08):
He's like the guy. Yeah. He's
Vargas (01:01:10):
The protagonist.
Greg (01:01:11):
He's like, he's the bad boy that all the girls and boys want to kiss and Ken's the one you want to marry. He's the one I'll treat you right. Is this
Mike D (01:01:18):
Your own My head cannon? Yeah. This is my head cannon.
Vargas (01:01:22):
See, I would make the argument that it's flip
Greg (01:01:24):
Flopped. Really? You think
Vargas (01:01:25):
Ken's the Playboy reuse the he's? He's soft spoken. Yeah, he's introspective.
Greg (01:01:31):
He's the wounded warrior.
Vargas (01:01:32):
You can bring him home to mom and he'll be polite
Greg (01:01:36):
And then he'll break your back in bed. There it is. And your bed. Yeah. He'll give
Vargas (01:01:41):
You that dragon uppercut. You know what I mean?
Greg (01:01:43):
Syd, you threw the fucking roof. Yeah. Thank him afterwards.
Vargas (01:01:47):
That's right.
Greg (01:01:49):
So was that your question? Yeah. Who's the main headliner of Street Fighter?
Vargas (01:01:55):
Right? Right. He was the guy
Greg (01:01:56):
That's the most fuckable.
Mike D (01:01:58):
Yeah. I was wondering who's going to just break your back?
Vargas (01:02:01):
All of
Mike D (01:02:02):
'em. Which one's going to blow your
Greg (01:02:03):
Back? Every one of them. Chung Lee, like every single fucking character.
Vargas (01:02:08):
Zif Blan, are you
Greg (01:02:10):
Kidding me? Blanca
Vargas (01:02:13):
E Honda? Yeah,
Greg (01:02:14):
Dude. All of them. There is a new character in Street Fighter six that is basically just like this gladiator woman character. Oh,
Vargas (01:02:24):
I've seen fan art.
Greg (01:02:25):
Mama Mia. She is beauty full
Mike D (01:02:28):
No,
Greg (01:02:29):
She's like eight feet tall. Yeah. I would make her breakfast every morning. She is just,
Mike D (01:02:36):
Do you remember there was a Resident evil game that had,
Greg (01:02:41):
There's six of them
Mike D (01:02:42):
That had shut up that there was the problematic one that we don't talk about anymore.
Greg (01:02:49):
A resident evil.
Mike D (01:02:51):
Oh yeah. Did you ever play Resident Evil Five or do you remember anything about it? I
Greg (01:02:55):
No. Hot
Vargas (01:02:56):
Take. I like Resident Evil
Mike D (01:02:57):
Five. You like Resident Evil five. Yeah. So the pro, it was set in Africa.
Greg (01:03:01):
Okay.
Mike D (01:03:01):
Yeah. And if you know anything about Resident Evil, it's like after a while they stopped looking like zombies and they just look like people with gross stuff inside of them. Gotcha. But if you just jump into the Resident Evil game, it's just like a white guy from America shooting tons and tons of black people. Yeah. It's like how did this get so far in production without someone being like, no, no, no, we're not sending someone to a third world country to just shoot mobs and mobs of Africans. It is fucked up. It's okay. You watch,
Vargas (01:03:36):
He has a black partner
Mike D (01:03:38):
You watched? Yeah. You watched the trailer of it now and you're like, they made this, it is like baffling.
Greg (01:03:45):
Yeah. Racism, the game.
Vargas (01:03:48):
Yeah.
Mike D (01:03:48):
Well, and I think they did this a very, I think they were trying to follow the success of Resident Evil four, which was another one that was set in a foreign country,
Vargas (01:04:01):
But it was a white guy shooting white guys.
Mike D (01:04:03):
But it was in Europe. Yes, exactly right. They were Spanish. Yeah. Which when you hear them speak, I don't know if they're speaking Portuguese in it, but they're technically colonizers. So it's like you can wrap your head a little bit around shooting these colonizers infected with a zombie parasite. But when you The evil five, I was just like, I can't play this.
Greg (01:04:35):
Yeah. This is rough. I can't play any of those games because one, they are scary. And two, the controls are very fucking hard.
Mike D (01:04:43):
Four is one of my favorite games of all time. Same.
Vargas (01:04:46):
But you were talking about Village with a giant vampire mommy.
Mike D (01:04:50):
Yes.
Greg (01:04:51):
Oh, I remember her.
Mike D (01:04:52):
That was a online phenomena where people were just like, oh, this woman, I will do anything for you. You step on me. Eight foot tall Goddess. I think it's so funny to see the fascination with unbelievably tall women and how people are just like, oh my God,
Greg (01:05:22):
GooGoo fucking gaga.
Mike D (01:05:24):
Pick me up
Greg (01:05:25):
And cradle me.
Mike D (01:05:26):
Yeah. You create this fictional eight foot, nine foot tall wo woman and just nerds all over the internet are just like, how can I make this real? Yeah, yeah. They're
Greg (01:05:37):
Not flipping over for a two foot woman
Mike D (01:05:40):
Future. Ima started it, man. Yeah. Death
Greg (01:05:42):
By Snu. Death by Snooze. No. Oh,
Mike D (01:05:43):
I forgot about that.
Greg (01:05:46):
I think that is where it awoken to me of just like, oh Mama Mia. That would be what a way to die.
Mike D (01:05:56):
Well, that's how you record an episode of The First Issue Club.
Greg (01:06:00):
Before we sound off, remember, if you want more of this, go to patreon.com/first issue club. Head on over to first issue club.com. We have a new segment up there that we have collaborated on with the Mutant Puke podcast of basically, we created a soundtrack to listen to while you read comics. And so this month's theme is Spider-Man 2099. So we have a lot of songs about the future and a lot of aggressive Oh, that's cool. Chords and stuff. So we have some Coheed and Cambria on there. Some robots by Flight of the Concords Swan song by Followship. So go over there and check it out. First club.com. Head over to the blog section and the Spotify link is up there. So we want to thank the crew over at the Mutant Puke Mutant Puke podcast for collaborating on that with us. Hell
Mike D (01:06:52):
Yeah. Those guys are dope. That's awesome.
Greg (01:06:54):
I'm actually fucking amped up because I was talking to him about it and he has all these plans for different playlists, for different characters. I'm just like, yeah, dude. Send them over. Yeah, this is Rad. And there are some songs in here I've never heard before that I was just like, there's a song by this band called Dwelling. It's called Devices that I was just blaring. It was so good.
Mike D (01:07:15):
Nice. Sounds like new metal.
Greg (01:07:17):
It's actually not. It's kind of like it's a emo new metal. Not new metal, but emo like rock shit. Yeah. Okay. So go check it out. See if you like it Sick.
Mike D (01:07:25):
Love it. Bye. First Issue Club is edited and produced by Mike Stasi, Greg Lichtig and Andy Vargas. Follow us on social media at First Issue Club and check out our Patreon for videos, audio and more at patreon.com/first issue Club.