Fury / Super Massive / City Boy
NEWS!
The boys of FIC are back once again. We dig into the new Hasbro X Marvel team up to bring ROM and Micronauts BACK to Marvel. Grant Morrison teams up with Ahoy comics for a 13 part prose series. We gush over Super Massive. Applaud Marvel for making Fury so damn good and laugh at CVS and Walgreens. Alright, see you next week.
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Greg (02:54):
We got Tales from the Shop.
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Yep.
Greg (02:56):
I have some questions about trading comic books at
Mike D (03:02):
Comic. Yeah. Comic book conventions this weekend. And you're wondering what to do about some books you've got?
Greg (03:07):
I've seen it happen before. Yeah. So I'm going to dip my toe into bringing some books I want to unload and see what I can get. Yeah. Oh yeah. From that probably talk about some variants that we've purchased. Right on eBay.
Vargas (03:21):
Good shit.
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I don't know if I have a list to yell at, but I'm sure I can drum up something. All
Mike D (03:27):
Right. Great. On today's episode of First Issue Club, we're going to hit some news we always do to start the show. First thing I saw was that image is now off of Diamond Distributors.
Greg (03:41):
It's on Lunar.
Mike D (03:43):
On Lunar now, which is what DC uses, correct? Yes. Last I heard DC was on Lunar. So
Vargas (03:48):
They're a Tuesday book then?
Greg (03:49):
Yes, they are. Right.
Mike D (03:51):
Okay.
Greg (03:51):
No longer is Wednesday the dominant day for new comic books? It's Tuesday and Wednesday now.
Mike D (03:57):
Yep. Image was the largest publisher that was on Diamond
Greg (04:05):
Left.
Mike D (04:06):
Yeah, I know. Boom is still on Diamond. I want
Greg (04:10):
To say Dark Horse
Mike D (04:11):
Maybe. I
Vargas (04:12):
Think everybody but
Greg (04:14):
Marvel
Mike D (04:15):
PC see an image. Yeah, that could be
Greg (04:18):
Right. They lost their three prize hogs. Yeah. Yeah.
Mike D (04:21):
I know that.
Greg (04:23):
Honestly, thank God.
Mike D (04:25):
It's like I don't have any reason to love or hate Diamond.
Greg (04:28):
It's just like Niro plane is violin as this city burned.
Vargas (04:32):
I think for
Greg (04:33):
So long, diamond was the monopoly of the whole industry.
Mike D (04:37):
Well,
Vargas (04:37):
And they got too big for their britches. Ask anybody who owns a shop and they'll tell you the horror story of books coming in a box that's been stepped on and a dog shit in it. And they don't send you replacement copies or whatever,
Greg (04:54):
Or they just don't send books at all. Yeah. They just
Vargas (04:56):
Don't send the right
Mike D (04:57):
Ones. Yeah. Don't arrive on time. I know there was a lot of delay problems with Diamond
Greg (05:03):
N j d up in New Jersey told us stories about how sometimes his boxes of books wouldn't drove up to the next week. Yeah. And as a shop, you can't survive on that
Mike D (05:12):
Instability. No. At that point, especially if there's a book that someone's dying to pick up or read. If you wait a week, someone's either bought it online, bought it at a competing shop just to get their fix. That's tough. Yeah.
Greg (05:26):
So yeah, I saw that. So I mean, I don't know what Diamond's going to do to maintain, I mean, unless they offer just gigantic discounts to Boom and Dark Horse for being loyal.
Vargas (05:39):
Yeah. I wonder if they're striking out at these hot new hotness, indie publishers like whatnot and
Greg (05:49):
Oh, that's right. What not still on there.
Vargas (05:50):
Some of those guys that seems like that has to be the place that they go if they want to try and stay.
Greg (05:57):
It could be. And who a Lunar may have just showed up to image and just given them a badass deal. So who knows what's going on behind the scenes. But I think what's really telling is people are just fed up with Diamond for sure. And now that they have different options, I mean you're, you're going to go shopping for better deals out there.
Mike D (06:20):
Well, and it's the larger publishers that have the infrastructure to handle more of the process on their own, which I think is why Lunar saves them money, is that they're taking on the burden of some of the distribution process. Right.
Greg (06:35):
It's like how some people use those t-shirt companies that print your logo and mail 'em out for you. Right.
Vargas (06:41):
Yeah. The print on demands,
Greg (06:43):
They may take a little more off the top, but I don't have to worry about shipping out 25.
Mike D (06:48):
Yeah. And Marvel is Penguin, right?
Vargas (06:50):
Yeah. Because that's owned. Isn't that weird? That's owned by
Mike D (06:53):
Disney people. Probably
Vargas (06:54):
Disney's a Disney subsidiary or
Greg (06:56):
Whatever. I will say this, the new collected edition trades that Penguin's putting out for Dr. Strange and fantastic foreign older books that are gorgeous
Vargas (07:06):
Speaking of
Greg (07:07):
They're beautiful
Vargas (07:08):
Speaking of, and also news micro knots.
Greg (07:11):
Let's get into it. That was my piece
Vargas (07:13):
Of news. That was my next one. They're reprinting all the micro knots
Greg (07:16):
Stuff. So Marvel and Hasbro have formed a deal to bring rom and micro knots back to do the omnibus, like the collected editions first time
Mike D (07:27):
Ever. Yeah.
Greg (07:28):
Through Marvel in my question is, is this going to lead to new series of Rom and micro knots?
Vargas (07:37):
Dude,
Greg (07:38):
Am I answer in my head? Absolutely.
Vargas (07:39):
There are so many old heads that would fill their pants if Marvel came out and they were like, Ewings writing a new ROM series.
Greg (07:51):
Fuck that Grant Morrison.
Vargas (07:52):
Oh my God, now I'm filling
Greg (07:54):
My pants. I think it makes sense. This deal makes sense to me. Hasbro huge Toy Titan. Yeah. Marvel killing it with the movies, the comics. I mean, they, Hasbro went to I D W for a while after they left Marvel. And now that they see the success that Marvel and Disney is having, I mean, why wouldn't Hasbro want to sign a deal, make even more money? I would think they would make even more money if they made a character that wound up in an MCU U movie. Oh yeah. They'll be making the toys of that character. So I honestly think we'll see more rom and micro knots in comic books soon. And in the MCU bet your bottom dollar,
Mike D (08:43):
I almost think not unless they can be sure that they own things outright and indefinitely because they're going to find themselves in the same problem that they were in wherein they have gaps in their stories. Because micro knots crossed over with X-men. Yeah. And now it's like, now we can't put those books and trades and we can't publish collected additions of X-Men micro knots stuff A, as soon as they lose the rights to those things, again, that just all becomes so convoluted to figure out.
Greg (09:15):
I think to that point though, I think there's more stability with Marvel now. I mean, I think Hasbro left in the nineties. No, no, no, no. It was in the two thousands when Hasbro and Marvel. Yeah. Split. But I mean, with the foundation they have now with Disney and all their movies, I imagine they can strike a deal that's beneficial to both parties. I would hope
Vargas (09:41):
Is So the thing that's, that I'm trying to rack my brain over is the last Transformers comics that came out. Are those still on I D W?
Mike D (09:52):
As far as I know, because that's
Vargas (09:53):
A Hasbro property.
Greg (09:56):
Oh, you know what? You know what I'm saying? I think Hasbro left. I D W.
Vargas (10:00):
So there's no current transformer series that
Greg (10:03):
Happened a year or so ago. Okay. I D W lost a bunch of its licensing property.
Vargas (10:08):
Interesting. Well, that would be sick
Greg (10:11):
Transformers at Marvel.
Vargas (10:13):
Yeah. I mean I'm all of that Hasbro stuff at Marvel. Yeah. Would be awesome. Yeah.
Mike D (10:20):
The Marvel pre-orders are just going to become a nightmare because there's already so many books to look through and if they keep adding stuff like Planet of the Apes Predator, all these movie and toy franchises just keep getting glommed on to Marvel. I'm going to have a thousand books to look through.
Vargas (10:39):
No, it's going to be way easier because then they'll just buy DC and you'll only have to have one preview book. Yeah.
Greg (10:45):
You say Nightmare. I say Dream. Yeah. The blend of the eighth series is fucking legit. It's
Vargas (10:51):
Dope.
Mike D (10:52):
It's, it's
Greg (10:52):
Very good.
Mike D (10:53):
It's too much stuff to buy. Some of the covers are amazing. Yeah.
Vargas (10:57):
The Alien and Predator stuff. The Predator stuff specifically is some of the best predator material out there.
Greg (11:05):
The is that Brisson? Yeah.
Vargas (11:07):
Briton's writing.
Greg (11:07):
Philip Kennedy Johnson is doing Alien. He
Vargas (11:10):
Did Alien did Alien. Declan Cha's writing
Greg (11:12):
D Travel.
Vargas (11:12):
Right. Writing the current.
Mike D (11:13):
Yeah. They have creators. I love on all those books.
Greg (11:16):
So fucking crazy about you think these movie tie-in merchandise stuff would be kind of throwaway from Marvel, but no, they just throw their best fucking writers and artists on there,
Vargas (11:28):
Which is great.
Greg (11:30):
I totally agree. It's when I found out that Frank Miller was doing the robocop series
Vargas (11:35):
And that series is
Greg (11:36):
Great. It's very good. Speaking of great things, did you hear that a HOK Comics is doing a 13 part like prose series in the back of some of their books written by none other than Grant Morrison?
Vargas (11:53):
No.
Greg (11:54):
Yeah. So it's a new thing they're going to be doing in the fall. It's kind of like how in the Watchmen they had that written story about the
Vargas (12:02):
Black freighter. Yeah,
Greg (12:03):
That guy. So Grant Morrison's writing this 13 part prose wackadoo story for a HO Comics.
Vargas (12:13):
Great. Are these across disparate issues? That's
Mike D (12:16):
What it sounds like.
Greg (12:17):
Know? Yes, it's, it's good. I think it's over. I think it, hold
Mike D (12:22):
On. It's so hard to read.
Greg (12:25):
But the series that it's spanned over all have a common theme. So if one connects with you, chances are the other. I think it's only two or three series that this is weaving in and out of. Okay. So
Vargas (12:40):
That still gets a big sigh from
Greg (12:41):
Me. Okay. Temper your size.
Vargas (12:43):
No, it gets a big sigh from me. Okay. I'd rather buy,
Greg (12:46):
Would it help to say that Mark Russell is also attached to this?
Vargas (12:49):
Okay. That makes a little
Greg (12:49):
Better. Okay. See,
Vargas (12:50):
But that's still harder for me to swallow than me having to buy 13 issues of an AHO series. I don't care about. Now I have to buy five issues of three A ho series that I don't care about.
Greg (13:04):
But you already buy 13 series of a DC thing that you don't care about either.
Vargas (13:10):
Okay. Now you're coming at me. Ju why are you calling me
Greg (13:13):
Out? I'm just trying to say
Mike D (13:15):
With
Greg (13:15):
Your boy Grant Morrison, you
Mike D (13:17):
Don't care about
Greg (13:19):
Because we're stupid.
Vargas (13:20):
Because Grant Morrison's writing it. I care about Grant Morrison. Yeah.
Greg (13:24):
And he cares about you too, probably. He probably does. They probably do. I'm sorry. I can't get that wrong.
Vargas (13:30):
They definitely greet me in my mind. Palace while I'm sleeping.
Greg (13:37):
The holy thing of,
Mike D (13:39):
Do you remember Joe Hill's imprint on DC that was like short-lived? It was called Hillhouse. Yeah. Hillhouse had a backup comic that was an homage to Watchman. It was pirate themed. Oh, okay. And it did the same thing where if you bought every Hillhouse book, I remember that you would get three pages of a comic book. Obviously this is going to be like, this
Greg (14:02):
Is a pros like prose
Mike D (14:03):
Thing. Yeah. Do you know how many pages each book it's going to be?
Greg (14:07):
No. No. I, all I know is it's 13 parts
Vargas (14:10):
I'd. I'd be shocked if it was more than three pages of Ps. I mean, if
Mike D (14:15):
It's, it's like dense, if
Vargas (14:16):
It's just straight pros. Yeah. Yeah.
Greg (14:18):
I don't think I've ever read anything by Grant Morrison in Prose.
Vargas (14:23):
Dude, you have to read Super Gods.
Greg (14:25):
Okay.
Vargas (14:27):
It's What's it about? It's his book about superheroes in pop culture.
Greg (14:33):
Is it fiction or non-fiction?
Vargas (14:34):
Non-fiction.
Greg (14:35):
Interesting. It's
Vargas (14:37):
Incredible. Really?
Greg (14:38):
Yeah. How big is it? This is an important question. I
Vargas (14:42):
Mean,
Mike D (14:42):
Greg's out. Greg's out?
Greg (14:44):
Yeah. Picture pictures or No,
Vargas (14:46):
No. It's a book, like a text, almost a textbook. Gross. No, no, it's an incredible,
Greg (14:53):
Okay. Super Gods. This is the
Mike D (14:54):
Episode where Greg finds out that I'll check it out. Books without Pictures.
Greg (14:57):
Yeah. What is this? Hell, speaking of super Gods, I have a Gods G O D S update for Marvel's. Oh yeah. Jonathan Hickman series. Here's the only reason I bring this up. The article I read threw in this line in the article, and I almost threw my computer out of the window and said, Marvel, Marvel's epic Gods the series which has been described as Marvel's answered as Sandman.
Vargas (15:28):
Full stop. Okay.
Greg (15:30):
Full fucking stop. Let's not even attempt to do that. The series isn't even out yet. Let's not try to compare it to maybe one of the greatest written things in comic books.
Mike D (15:45):
What we need is our own Sandman in
Greg (15:47):
2023. Like Fucking Get Over Yourself.
Vargas (15:50):
And nothing against Jonathan Hickman. Jonathan Hickman is one of the greatest living comic book writers. But he's not Neil Gaiman.
Greg (16:00):
Not yet.
Vargas (16:01):
Not, I mean, yet. I guess this could be his Sandman. Sure. Why not? But that is a lofty statement for a book that's not out yet.
Greg (16:11):
And also, there's no fucking way it will be.
Vargas (16:14):
Yeah, of course it will be.
Greg (16:15):
Because Sandman lives in the indie comic sphere. Sphere of unattached to anything. Yeah.
Mike D (16:20):
It's original character, original story.
Greg (16:22):
Yeah. They had didn't have an editor just be like, well, you can't do that with that character because they're doing, this is already behind so much Marvel Red tape. I don't care if it is Jonathan Hickman and they're doing all these amazing, I don't give a shit. Yeah. It's never going to touch Sandman.
Vargas (16:37):
Yeah. To equate an event book.
Greg (16:42):
Exactly.
Vargas (16:42):
Yes. To anything like that is a little bit,
Greg (16:46):
That's actually an empire. Was is better than Watchman. It's like in what fucking world? Yeah,
Vargas (16:53):
Yeah, yeah. So you know how World War Hulk is like Preacher? Yeah.
Greg (16:59):
Or Champions is a of Mice and Men.
Mike D (17:02):
Our podcast is an answer to the White album.
Greg (17:05):
Yeah.
Vargas (17:06):
I mean,
Greg (17:07):
The Gray album minimum. I just wanted to, they showed off some characters that will be showing up in the series that are going to be part of the new hierarchy or behind the scenes cosmic shit that's going to be happening with God's. And some of these names are fucking wild. Yeah. First of all, there's win a powerful magic expert who's operated in secret for thousands of years and is now forced to come out of the shadows.
Mike D (17:40):
How is that spelled
Greg (17:43):
As dumb as you think? W y N. Oh, okay. You think I said it wrong?
Vargas (17:48):
No,
Mike D (17:49):
No. I was just wondering. I didn't know if it was that like ng.
Greg (17:54):
Oh, no.
Mike D (17:55):
Oh, yeah.
Vargas (17:55):
Yeah.
Greg (17:56):
It's more mystical than, yeah. Okay. Rooted in reality. Dimitri, the Science Boy,
Mike D (18:03):
That's the full Dimitri, the science. That
Greg (18:05):
Is how it is given to us. Okay. So already on par with Sandman Win's, reckless partner who has a secret mission of his own discover to discover the dark truth of his past. Maya the Magic girl, a young soer struggling to achieve her full potential and Cubis core, a mysterious bean of pure corruption, seeking to shatter the existing systems.
Mike D (18:30):
Cubas.
Greg (18:32):
Now with names like that, I am kind of pulling back my excitement for God's,
Mike D (18:39):
I think they are Kirby esque homage names.
Vargas (18:45):
Oh,
Mike D (18:45):
Totally. Is what I get the impression of. And
Vargas (18:48):
I saw the variant covers, and they all just look like folks don't, they're not wearing capes. And
Greg (18:55):
Except Cubics Core, who looks like he'd been, looks like the Mass Magician hit with a piece of metal. Yeah.
Vargas (19:02):
He's got a thing. But the other three, he's got the shoes. The other three are just like, yeah.
Greg (19:07):
Dudes. Yeah. Humans. Yeah. Humanoids.
Vargas (19:12):
So, because I saw the one where it was like Dimitri, because they're doing variance across Marvel series, of course, for all these different people. So it's like Dimitri standing next to Moon Night, and it's just like a guy standing next to Moon Night at the top of a building or whatever.
Greg (19:27):
They went to JC Penney's and got pictures taken. It's just like these variant covers aren't really dynamic. Yeah. So with that, were, where are we standing with Gods? Do we build them up or tear them down?
Mike D (19:45):
I'm incredibly excited to read this
Greg (19:47):
Thing. Okay.
Vargas (19:48):
Oh yeah. I'm super
Mike D (19:49):
Jazzed about, yeah. I can't wait to figure out what the heck it is. For sure.
Greg (19:52):
Well, stay tuned, folks.
Mike D (19:53):
I mean, the concept sounded
Greg (19:54):
Great to see if it stands up to Sandman in any way.
Mike D (19:59):
I think part of me thinks that the creators might even cringe at that statement. You know what I mean? Yeah. This was probably Marvel PR being, it kind of reminds us of something Sandman esque, and then they worded it in a way that was like, man, you just don't say that to comic book fans. No, you don't say we've got an answer too,
Greg (20:23):
Because you're almost just like, do you mean in scope?
Mike D (20:26):
Yeah. Right.
Greg (20:27):
It's going to be big and vast. Or you don't Yeah, you do that shit. You don't compare a masterpiece to something that hasn't even come out yet. But even
Vargas (20:37):
Then, if you're trying to compare the scope of Sandman, it's way less abrasive to say it's on the scope of the Eternals or new gods,
Greg (20:47):
Right? Yeah. Compared to something.
Vargas (20:49):
Yeah. So something a little more up Marvels alley
Greg (20:54):
Than
Vargas (20:55):
Sand Man.
Greg (20:56):
Yeah. Because Machine Gun Kelly can't come out and be like, Hey, you like Pet Sounds Will. Oh
Vargas (21:00):
My God.
Greg (21:01):
Hear this new fucking album.
Vargas (21:02):
Jesus Christ,
Greg (21:05):
My new album, kill Shelter.
Vargas (21:10):
Oh, Jesus.
Greg (21:12):
That's all the news I got.
Vargas (21:14):
Yeah. I don't have any, let's get
Mike D (21:16):
Into them comics you guys read this week.
Greg (21:21):
Do you want to talk about Fury?
Vargas (21:22):
Yeah, we can talk about Fury. I
Mike D (21:24):
Can. I say I love the cover you have here. Is that Chris
Vargas (21:26):
Samy? Chris Samy,
Mike D (21:28):
Beautiful
Greg (21:28):
Cover course. Genius Fury by Al Ewing.
Vargas (21:33):
Yep. And a whole bunch of artists
Greg (21:35):
Of a plethora of artists. I want to wag my finger at Marvel. Marvel real quick. Careful. Because Fingers
Vargas (21:44):
Out
Greg (21:45):
Fury, seemingly an unassuming, unassuming book written by Al Ewing Blew my socks off. Yeah. Cosmic Ghost writer, unassuming book written by Stephanie Phillips. Blew my fucking socks off. Stop doing this. You're given the attention to the wrong books. There should be a giant spotlight on Fury this week. Yeah. Because it did something that it shouldn't have been able to do, which was take 50 years of Nick Fury history and make it into a straight line, and everyone fucking understands what's happening.
Vargas (22:17):
And set the record straight for a lot of clean up all these hanging Nick Fury loose ends. Yep. And pave the Way for Nick Fury moving forward.
Greg (22:27):
Oh my God. It opened the door to where Nick Fury pun intended. Yeah. Is going to be going from here on out. To give you some context, this wraps in every Nick Fury that you've ever met. Yeah. We have Ultimate Nick Fury. We have classic Jim Chenko, Nick Fury, and then we have what, what's the other one? The
Vargas (22:50):
World War ii, Nick Fury,
Greg (22:51):
World War ii, Nick Fury,
Vargas (22:53):
Because there's, there's the World War ii. Nick Fury, I think is technically like a Jake Fury. And then there's Nick Fury Sr. Yes. Who is Nick Fury? Junior's Samuel L. Jackson. Nick Fury's dad.
Greg (23:07):
Yes. Which I apparently forgot. Yeah. Because during that whole thing, I was just like, oh, yeah. They're like,
Vargas (23:15):
That's related. That's one of the great things this book does, is it brings all those folks, those related dudes together, lays out the timeline in a way that makes sense, and it kind of establishes their relationship to each other.
Greg (23:29):
Yes. Wraps up Nick Fury on the moon. Yeah.
Vargas (23:33):
Yeah. The Man on the Wall who has been there since 2015,
Greg (23:37):
Ever since original. Original.
Vargas (23:38):
Original sin. Original sin,
Mike D (23:39):
Maybe even before 2015.
Greg (23:41):
And the way they handled that story was incredible. So
Vargas (23:45):
Cool.
Greg (23:45):
And I think we may even get some stuff with him in his new journey that he's going on. I
Vargas (23:51):
Hope
Greg (23:51):
So, because that sounds rad. And it was really brilliant that Al Ewing was just like, we got too many Nick Fury. Yeah. Let's just simple simplify it. Make one, Nick Fury. Let's explain it right now. And they added another acronym group of villains called Scorpio, or I guess is this, that's existing Scorpio. Yeah. They threw them in the mix. This was acronym City.
Vargas (24:17):
Yeah. Scorpio. Zodiac. What? Ace Shield.
Greg (24:21):
They mentioned. They're all orcas or, yeah, everyone's mentioned. So they wrap all that stuff up and it's really fucking funny. Yeah. They call Nick Fury a Nepo baby, which is incredible. And it actually got me excited to read more Nick Fury shit. And that's hard to do. That is really hard to do.
Vargas (24:45):
Which I don't understand because Fury is just Marvel's James Bond. It's their in-house James Bond character.
Greg (24:52):
But they haven't done that.
Vargas (24:53):
They totally underutilize him.
Greg (24:56):
And I hope that it changes with this new TV show coming out.
Vargas (25:01):
Yeah. Secret,
Greg (25:01):
Secret Invasion, which is basically going to be a Marvel James Bond series. I'm
Vargas (25:06):
So excited for that
Greg (25:07):
Because I mean, this book was incredible and so easy to understand. So I mean, this was my pick of the week. Fury. I, I'm shocked to say it myself. Folks.
Vargas (25:18):
One of the things I want to highlight, and I'm just going to flip through this for Mike d is, so Nick Fury Jr. Goes on an adventure and he starts the plot, and then he references his family
Greg (25:31):
Lineage files.
Vargas (25:32):
Yes. Well, he's like flipping through the files. So he pulls out these files and they're called what? Pi Picto files or something? They're just comic books. They're comic books. They're just Nick Fury stories, inve in continuity, whatever. So the panel starts and he pulls out this file, and it's like the cover of a comic book. And then it goes into that comic, into comic comic comic book. Yeah. That's cool. And it just
Greg (25:58):
Continues. And in when they do the in comic book world, he's wearing the classic Jim str Echo. Yeah, spacesuit. Yeah, that's right. Ad. So the way they even have weaved that story in is just no better person to handle this than Al Ewing, to be honest. Yeah.
Vargas (26:16):
And the artist changes. There were two or three artists in this book. Yeah. So it's super fun. Well worth your six bucks
Greg (26:25):
If Yeah, totally. Yeah. And Andy and I were talking before the show started that this may be kind of a taste of what they're going to be trying to do with God's, because at the end of the book, they've mentioned all these doorways and all these different keys that Zodiac has around the world that can do a massive damage or have immense power. So I mean, who knows what this is setting up, but I mean, thrilling, to say the least. Yeah.
Mike D (26:54):
We have LMDs in this.
Greg (26:55):
Yep. We do. Right off the start.
Mike D (26:57):
How do you have a Nick Fury book without LMDs?
Vargas (26:59):
True.
Mike D (27:01):
That's a thing that I roll my eyes at. I don't know if they made a gag out of it.
Vargas (27:07):
So they make an entire squad of Nick Frier, junior LMDs, and he assaults the base with a team of himself
Mike D (27:15):
Of, okay. Yeah. Got it.
Greg (27:17):
And he has a laser gloves in this where he can shoot lasers from his fingers. It's like
Vargas (27:23):
A gun. It's so sick. Yeah. It's a great book. It
Greg (27:26):
Was very heartwarming, charming, campy. It was just badass.
Vargas (27:30):
Yeah. It was great. I read last week, the Hulk Annual that we were also excited about. Oh
Mike D (27:38):
Yeah. That's
Vargas (27:39):
Right. And this was as good as you expect a David Peptos book to be, especially given the premise of a documentary crew going out to film The Hulk. And be careful what you wish for. They find The Hulk and he's fighting a giant mutant monster.
Greg (28:03):
Was he fighting Gigo or something? They
Vargas (28:05):
Don't name him, but it definitely looked like Giganto. Gotcha. And they also have a little cameo appearance from the Moleman Oh, nice. From Fantastic Four, number one. That was super funny. But yeah, this was a great annual. It leads kind of directly into Philip Kennedy, Johnson's Hulk number one. There's a little epilogue that ties this story directly into whatever's going to happen there.
Greg (28:36):
That's going to be exciting.
Vargas (28:37):
That's going to be very cool. Especially because it's Nick Klein and Philip Kennedy Johnson.
Mike D (28:42):
Yeah. Great team.
Vargas (28:43):
That book's going to rip. So if you're in the mood for a Cloverfield style book in the Marvel universe, the Hulk Annual is a great one shot again, especially for five bucks. Yeah. Totally worth it.
Greg (29:00):
David Peppo on Twitter shared an image of a player witch homage he put in the book. Oh, yeah. Of the mom in holding a kid in a red coat or whatever is a complete rip from the Blair Witch Project before the movie gets all creepy of the mom and the movie. Just like, don't go out and you don't need to do all that. And he said he put it in the book and thought it would be kind of a funny Easter egg to hide even more found footage stuff in his book.
Vargas (29:28):
That's great. I missed that. I'll have to go through it again.
Mike D (29:30):
My problem with this and other annuals that are coming out with Marvel is how small they write the word annual on this. I mean, you almost have to get out. Is it on there? A mag? Oh, what the fuck? You almost have to get out of magnifying glass to read that. That's an annual,
Vargas (29:43):
Yeah, it's up in the corner. I'll call it a corner box. Yeah. Where it says Marvel one, and then below it, it says where the legacy number would be.
Mike D (29:52):
Yes. Supposed. And your eyes typically just breeze right over that, right? Yeah. And to think about if you are a
Greg (30:00):
Newbie,
Mike D (30:01):
Kind of a newbie, or you're just looking for a jumping on point, that's not what you're going to get. And you're going to be hella confused when a second Hulk one comes out in a month. Yeah. They're going to have two Hulk number ones come out. At least you're getting a
Vargas (30:15):
Month. The part, at least you're getting a complete story though. Yeah,
Mike D (30:17):
That's true.
Vargas (30:18):
It's not like, yeah. I, yeah. Can see how that, I don't know. This is a good jumping on point, I would say. But it's number one is probably going to be the better jumping on point. Sure.
Greg (30:32):
Yeah.
Mike D (30:32):
This feels disingenuine to me because annuals are for
Greg (30:37):
Bigs,
Mike D (30:38):
Longtime readers. And then a first issue is for more of gen pop. You
Greg (30:46):
Know what? And they're
Mike D (30:46):
Going to sell a lot more of these with people thinking that this is a new series. I guarantee half of the people who bought this comic just browsing through their shop. Yeah. Didn't know it was an annual. I
Greg (30:58):
Agree. I don't think annuals should have a number on them.
Mike D (31:01):
I,
Greg (31:02):
You know what I mean? I'm
Mike D (31:03):
Totally behind that.
Greg (31:04):
It just should say Hulk annual. Yeah. Because the one you're right. Completely throws you off.
Mike D (31:11):
If you want to do, sometimes they do multiple annuals in a year. Do like, yeah. Do a January annual in a June annual. Yeah. Put the month on it.
Vargas (31:20):
Put the year in it.
Mike D (31:21):
Yeah. Put the year in it.
Vargas (31:22):
Hulk Marvel 2023
Greg (31:25):
Hulk Winter Special. Oh, hell
Vargas (31:27):
Yeah. That
Greg (31:28):
Sounds pleasant. Thank
Vargas (31:29):
You. Hulk. In earmuffs,
Mike D (31:31):
They do these numbering to sell
Greg (31:33):
More. And also, this is my final plea to Marvel and DC Make annual square bound again. Make 'em be, I remember when annuals were the phone book. Yeah. They were just stuffed to the gills.
Vargas (31:46):
Yeah.
Greg (31:48):
Come on. Yeah. Hashtag Come on.
Vargas (31:51):
Prestige annuals.
Greg (31:53):
Head. Head to social media folks. Hashtag Come on. We'll get annuals the size they need to be. What'd you read, Mike T? Yeah. Mike T
Mike D (32:04):
I'm, I'm waiting this weekend for a shipment of an entire month's worth of comics to arrive. So I'm a little behind on the latest issues.
Greg (32:17):
So you can sit in your box like a beanbag chair.
Mike D (32:20):
Yeah. With all your issues be Right. I've also been playing a lot of tears of the Kingdom. Sure. So I haven't been reading because of that.
Greg (32:27):
Some zelie.
Mike D (32:28):
I did read a handful of graphic novels. Ephemera Keeping two and what was the last one? Oh shit. Flavor Girls,
Greg (32:45):
Which is a boom. Oh yeah. I remember Flavor
Mike D (32:47):
Girls. I read the first issue of Flavor Girls, which is kind of like a sailor moon take. And it was really fun. I don't know if I should recap those or if I should save that for, we
Greg (33:03):
Should do a special Mike. That's
Mike D (33:05):
A special graphic novel kind of episode. Mike
Greg (33:07):
Trades episode.
Mike D (33:09):
Mike Trades.
Greg (33:14):
Well, speaking of super fun things, I read Super Massive Out on Image, I believe.
Vargas (33:21):
Is it a massive verse book?
Greg (33:22):
Yes. It's by Kyle Higgins, Ryan Parrott, Melissa Flores and Matt Grom. It's in
Mike D (33:29):
Oh, I love Matt Grom.
Greg (33:30):
He's in the world of Radiant Black, radiant Pink Dead. Lucky. No one. No one. Which is an amazing series. Holy shit. Yeah. This is their big event book. It's one of their, it's an annual for them. So all the characters are coming together. Yeah. Was, there
Mike D (33:48):
Was a book called Super Massive a year ago.
Greg (33:50):
Yes. So this is their thing where they get all, not all, but a lot of the characters from that universe together to solve a big problem in their world.
Mike D (34:01):
Was this a number one?
Greg (34:02):
No, this is super massive. It's
Mike D (34:04):
Just super massive. It doesn't even have a number.
Greg (34:05):
They fucking did it. Right. What do you, you know about that?
Vargas (34:09):
Is this like a crisis?
Greg (34:10):
No. What do you mean? A crisis on infinite Earths? Yeah. Like
Vargas (34:14):
An event where they're like, oh, look, Batman, there's Green Arrow. No
Greg (34:18):
Uhuh. Okay. No. So that's great. About the massive verse. They all know about each other. Oh, okay. And so I, I've said this from the beginning with Radiant Black and all the subsequent books that have come out. It maintains its fun. It's a book that is well illustrated, has a good time. I don't want to say it doesn't take itself too seriously cause that makes it seem like it's kiddish or not really well put together. But it's just a fun book about young adults with powers and suits and stuff. And Kyle Higgins and Ryan Parrot are from Power Rangers adjacent books. So they basically just took their version of that into image and are making this sprawling, massive universe with these characters that seem relatable and fun to be around. And they have a way of writing dialogue that's relatable and how people actually talk in the real world.
Vargas (35:28):
Yeah. It's very colloquial.
Mike D (35:30):
I think they've done a, they've, I mean, obviously, I don't have to tell you they've done a great job of this, but all the comic book creators are constantly trying to create the formula for an integrated universe on a publisher that isn't Marvel in dc. So you can own it all and benefit from all that stuff. How many times says Valiant tried to reboot all these characters, and sometimes you get some avail there, and other times it's not so hot, but they're constantly redoing it. A lot of other creators have done imprints or grandiose stories that don't get you rolling. I think starting with something like a Radiant Black,
Greg (36:21):
Oh yeah.
Mike D (36:22):
That gets a little lot of hype. And then
Greg (36:26):
Building from there.
Mike D (36:27):
Building from there and spurring off of it. Not starting with the big thing first and starting with the small thing, and then growing while it's still fresh and hot in people's minds. Because I think a lot of times you'd say, okay, I've done some issues of this comic book People it let's do a tie in. At that point, some of the hype has died down, and these guys, when the Iron was still hot from Radiant Black. Yes. We're like, we're doing a second book and then a third and then a fourth. They just came so quickly
Vargas (37:08):
And what they didn't do, keeping it all in house, so it would've been easy to do Radiant Black X Spawn. Right? Sure. And they hopefully purposefully didn't do that because that would've been a shitty book because Todd McFarland would've written it and they would've sold a million copies, but it would've been terrible, and it would've killed the direction of their,
Mike D (37:31):
Would've been a little shark jumpy.
Greg (37:33):
Well, so I don't want to spoil the end of this book because it fucking rips.
Vargas (37:41):
Spawn shows up.
Greg (37:42):
I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that. But the great thing about this book in this series is it found Its Lane quickly stayed in it, and then just built on it more and more and more. And it shouldn't have happened this way as successfully as it did, but it has wherein they introduced, like you said, radiant Red, radiant Pink Dead, lucky, rogue Sun. And normally you would introduce that in the same series. It would be Radiant Black, and then these characters would show up. What they did was they just added different series of books in addition to Radiant Black, and they all converge into one point and then separate again, and then converge again. And it shouldn't work like that, especially at an indie publisher image in this new series. It shouldn't be as successful with that. But they've somehow caught lightning in a bottle five different times, and people have just gobbled it up.
Mike D (38:43):
My big thing when it started, and back when we had the Budget King who didn't want to spend a lot of money on comics, r i
Greg (38:50):
P,
Mike D (38:52):
His take obviously being a budget guy, was that, how do you expect me a few months in to be buying multiple titles every month to stay in your universe? And it kind of is a big ask for something so new,
Greg (39:09):
A huge ask.
Mike D (39:10):
But again, I think people are excited about those books. And maybe when you fell off of Radiant Black, you kept reading Rogue's Sun and it kind of kept you tied to the universe that you can jump back in it after something a super massive comes out. Yeah. You're like, oh, I did dig that. I'll start buying Radiant Black again. And this starts to become a little more of a easy X verse or Spider verse thing for you. Yeah. If you're a Spider-Man freak, you're buying tons of titles every month. If you're an X-Men freak, you're buying half a comic shop a month. This is that on a manageable scale
Greg (39:57):
With good creators. Yeah. It's new and new readers are really attracted to it, and so I think that's why it's kind of taken off. They don't have 20 years of Spider History to go back and learn or any shit like that. The last series I've seen do it as successfully as the super massive verse is doing it is Jeff Lairs. Yeah.
Mike D (40:20):
That
Greg (40:21):
When that series dropped, it was earth shattering. It was so good. And they had different tie-ins and stuff, and it just all worked.
Vargas (40:28):
But that was still way more indie. I mean, partially because it was on Dark Horse, but Blackham was, is still way more indie than
Greg (40:38):
Radiant Black is. I would agree. And
Mike D (40:41):
I blackham think they went to alternate titles and tie-ins as quick as,
Greg (40:50):
No, hell no.
Mike D (40:51):
Radiant Black did. Yeah.
Greg (40:52):
No. Eventually they got there where
Mike D (40:55):
They were doing mostly minis. Yeah. Whereas Radiant Black or super massive has so many ongoings.
Greg (41:05):
I can think of five off the top of my head.
Mike D (41:07):
Yeah. It's wild, isn't it? I really do think I said it again, and I'm bad at reiterating myself, but I really do think they've created this kind of mold that people thought this is too much of a buy-in to ask of people. But you're finding out that people are into these indie type stories, and if you've got good creators and create universe really quickly while the hype surrounding one book is hot, and you're just building constantly with the more titles, I mean, think about how much no one was selling for on the secondary market right away, then that's a book that a shit ton of people pre-ordered because they know it ties into this. And it was still a highly sought after book. It's crazy. I think you're going to see a lot of creators instead of doing their new book, you might have somebody like Rick Recommender or Jonathan Hickman be like, all right, I've got five books planned for the next two months that I'm going to kick off. You know what I mean? Or more like six months. Yeah. The next six months, instead of bringing one book to image that I'm going to be writing, I'm plotting out this big thing. Yeah.
Greg (42:25):
No, that's it. They've definitely created the mold for other people to follow. Sure. And it's up to the new creators to succeed or not. Yes. And I don't know, I think what they've created over there in the massive verse is very unique. I mean, with no one, they created a specific podcast just to go along with a book. Yeah. That's fucking unheard of. Yeah.
Mike D (42:48):
And they've got celebrities. Exactly. Massive celebrities to do it. Yeah.
Greg (42:52):
Pun intended. So yeah, I read super massive. It was a lot of fun. If you like the massive verse, you're going to love this. Like I said, there's a cheeky little cameo at the end of this book.
Vargas (43:08):
It's spa.
Greg (43:09):
I'm not going to say yes or no. I'm not going to do that. I'm going to let you super massive wash over you.
Vargas (43:18):
Well, I'll do a couple of books Rapid Fire. So go
Mike D (43:21):
For it for it. We got plenty of time. Okay. Yeah.
Greg (43:23):
Time.
Vargas (43:24):
I read. Well, I'll go last week first, then I read Titans out on DC
Greg (43:31):
Dawn of dc.
Vargas (43:32):
This is their replacement for the Justice League because Justice League has disbanded.
Greg (43:39):
Okay.
Vargas (43:39):
So Titans are now the premier super team on Earth.
Greg (43:44):
Oh, is this the book that everyone was mad about because Tom Taylor was on it?
Vargas (43:48):
Probably, but it's Tom Taylor and Nicholas Scott.
Greg (43:52):
Hey,
Mike D (43:52):
Why are people mad about Tom Tom Taylor?
Greg (43:54):
Because people don't realize that Tom Taylor's an amazing writer. Yeah.
Mike D (43:57):
He's really good.
Greg (43:57):
Yeah. And they just like, for whatever reason, people love Dogan on Tom Taylor. Really?
Mike D (44:02):
I didn't know that. Oh, leave Tom Taylor a I'll
Greg (44:05):
Protect that writer till the end of my day. Yeah.
Vargas (44:08):
Tom Taylor rules.
Greg (44:09):
Yeah. He gave us spider bytes. Well, shut the fuck up.
Vargas (44:12):
I mean, he gave us a lot of stuff. That's true. Well, this book was really good. It familiarizes you with a lot of these teen characters.
Mike D (44:25):
They're, are any of them teenagers?
Vargas (44:27):
No, no, no, no, no. None of them are teenagers. They're, that's why they're just Titans next.
Greg (44:31):
They're just Titans
Vargas (44:32):
Now. Okay. Not Team Titans, but there is a murder mystery at the heart of this book. And anytime there's a superhero murder mystery that gets me. I like that a lot. Oh, you
Greg (44:46):
Like a good clue? I
Vargas (44:47):
Do. I like it. There's a BU Buing romance between Raven and Beast Boy. Ooh. There is whatever. All these people trying to step up to fill the shoes of their proteges at the Justice League,
Greg (45:06):
Are they all still living together in some weird animal house?
Vargas (45:11):
The beginning of the impetus of the story is they're moving in back into Titan Tower.
Greg (45:18):
Okay, cool.
Vargas (45:19):
So they're going to be living together to be, that's
Greg (45:23):
Like, that's a cheesy moving shaped building there. Defies gravity. Yeah. That's like moving back in with your parents.
Vargas (45:28):
Well, they make a bunch of jokes about that. Oh man. It's, it's great. No, super fun book. Tom Taylor rules. Nicholas Scott's art is second to none. She's an absolutely incredible artist. Hell yeah. If anybody out there read Black Magic,
Greg (45:44):
Oh right.
Vargas (45:45):
Hell cheated that. Okay. With Grega. Nice. So it's great.
Greg (45:50):
Bring the motherfucking,
Vargas (45:52):
I also read the Avengers number one from Jed McKay and CF via
Greg (45:58):
The yearly number one Avengers book.
Vargas (46:00):
There hasn't
Greg (46:02):
Been, I'm kidding. I was going to say, I'm
Vargas (46:03):
Kidding. There hasn't been a interest number one in seven years.
Greg (46:06):
Holy shit. You wound up for that.
Vargas (46:09):
I'm tired of people dogging on that last Avenger series
Greg (46:12):
With you. I loved Jason Aaron's Avengers. I loved it
Vargas (46:15):
Too. Well, and this one is gearing up to be just as good. I mean, Jed McKay is my boy. I'm just waiting for the book to change its title to Moon Night and Friends. No, this is great. Captain Marvel becomes the chairperson of the Avengers. Okay. I love it. So she is gathering her crew, her new like Avengers a team, and she recruits Scarlet Witch, black Panther Vision, captain America, Thor and Ironman.
Greg (46:47):
So I'm confused because in the new Black Panther solicits, it almost seems like Black Panther is a fugitive or on the run or
Vargas (46:56):
Something. That is correct. He is no longer the king of Wakanda. So he has been exiled from Wakanda, but he is recruited to be an Avenger nonetheless, for reasons that you can read about if you buy the book.
Greg (47:14):
It's Spawn, isn't it? It's
Vargas (47:15):
Spawn. You got
Greg (47:16):
It. Spawn is an Avenger, goddammit.
Vargas (47:17):
Black Panther is the crossover and super massive. You got it. Holy
Greg (47:20):
Shit.
Vargas (47:22):
But no, this is great. Again, it's, they're all teaming up to fight some giant monster. And it of cuts back and forth to why Captain Marvel picked these individuals to be on the team. And there's a great scene when she's recruiting Sam Wilson, captain America, where Sam and Steve are in a boxing gym training against each other. And they all, three of them just all call each other cap. And it's great. I love that they do a whole who's on first thing. It's incredible.
Greg (47:57):
There is something always very exciting when a new Avengers title number one comes out. Oh, yeah. I felt the same way when Jason Naron started his And you got the first Avengers Tower that is the old Eternals. Oh
Vargas (48:12):
Yeah. The Avengers Mountain. Yes.
Greg (48:14):
Yeah. There's just something kind of fun, and you're going on a new journey and D and d, you don't know what's up ahead. So this has the same kind of vibe to me of just like, Ooh, what's Jed got in store for
Vargas (48:26):
Us? And what I love about Jed McKay specifically is he really lays out how he's going to use each character. Right. Because again, the story is Captain Marvel picking these specific people to be on the team, and she talks about why. So Oh, cool. Jed literally lays it out on the page of, I'm using Tony Stark because of his, the money. The Man Under the Armor. Right? Oh yeah. Not for Ironman, but for who Tony Stark is. Okay. I'm using Thor because he's got this perspective of a God and he's the most powerful being on the planet, that kind of stuff. So very cool. I'm very excited about Avengers and Jed McKay rules.
Greg (49:13):
Do we know, I'm going to put this to the group. Do we know if there's ever been an Avengers title that hasn't featured Cap Thor or Ironman
Vargas (49:27):
Main Line Avengers? Yes. Probably back in the nineties when
Greg (49:33):
It just seems like they can't make an Avengers book without including one of those three. Yeah.
Vargas (49:39):
I don't know who the lineup was when Black Knight was the leader.
Greg (49:43):
Oh, good call. You know what
Vargas (49:44):
I'm talking about. I
Greg (49:45):
Think Thor was there, if not, but was
Vargas (49:47):
It Thor or was it like
Greg (49:48):
Thunder Strike? Thunder Strike. Yeah. Yeah, that's what I mean.
Vargas (49:52):
So maybe, probably. There's been a ton of Avengers lineups.
Greg (49:55):
I'll have to look into that. If the answer, save me some time and find us on Twitter for sure. Or something of the Discord.
Vargas (50:01):
Yeah. Picture It didn't happen though. Yeah. And the other book I read, the last number one is City Boy. City Boy came out this week. This is a Greg Pack book, so I had to pick it up. The cover was just so intriguing to me. I don't know anything about the character. Cause I didn't read, what was it, Lazarus Planet? Yeah.
Greg (50:20):
So can he draw stuff when it comes to life? What
Vargas (50:22):
Is that? No, he's connected to a city. He has the ability to psychically talk to cities and
Greg (50:31):
As a street lamp,
Vargas (50:33):
As if it was an organism. Whoa. So he's kind of like, he's tapped into everything in the city, and he uses this power at the beginning of the book to find stuff that's lost and make money from it. So
Greg (50:50):
Anyone would do.
Vargas (50:51):
So he finds a Rolex in a gutter and takes it to a pawn shop, and that's how he's making his living. So
Greg (50:59):
This is how Warlock can talk to Crico.
Vargas (51:03):
Yeah, that's exactly right. But he can do that with any city that he's in. Okay,
Greg (51:08):
Cool.
Vargas (51:08):
But he also has the ability to physically change the structure of the city. Should he choose to?
Greg (51:17):
He can turn a Walgreens into a cvs.
Vargas (51:20):
Yeah, exactly. You nailed it. This
Greg (51:22):
Just the first thing that came in my mind.
Vargas (51:28):
Yeah. He can turn in Applebee's into a Chilis. Oh, with the snap of his fingers.
Greg (51:31):
Yeah. Wrong way. Flip it for real.
Vargas (51:36):
But no, this is one of those we are legends books that DC's doing. So at some point, I'm presuming that this will cross over with Vigil and Spirit world, whatever that other one was. But this was a super entertaining book. Again, there's like a mystery at the heart of it. Who are the people that gave him his powers and why and Oh, gotcha. He working for And who are these
Greg (52:07):
People? He had these forever.
Vargas (52:09):
No, he's had 'em for 10 years or something.
Mike D (52:12):
I love these books. This, he's 11. Give somebody a power set that is like, what do you do with that in a comic book? You know what I mean? And the first issue's kind of like, oh, kind of what I thought. Yeah. You're just finding lost stuff around town and where it goes from there is going to get I'm, because Greg pack's writing it. Really? Oh yeah, for sure. It's going to get crazy, I'm sure. Yeah. The character design's really cool. He's just wearing street wear, but he's got a line across his jacket that's makes a city landscape or a, what do you call that? Skyline? Skyline. Skyline, yeah.
Greg (52:51):
D dc does this a lot with characters that they introduce a new power and you're like, huh. Yeah. Okay. How damage could only be damaged for one hour of the day where he is this big hulking creature, but only for an hour.
Vargas (53:08):
Hour, man.
Greg (53:09):
And you're just like, what am I going to do with it? That's stupid. And so there's so many of those where you're just like, huh, well, let's see if it works.
Vargas (53:21):
What I'm hoping is that this book has a lot of legs because
Greg (53:25):
Looks like two on the cover. Ba Bapa,
Vargas (53:30):
That was the podcast. My hope is that they let Greg Pack do whatever he wants with this, because doing something like Alan Moore's Swamp thing where he shot swamping into space would be incredible. With someone who has the ability to talk to cities
Mike D (53:47):
Like Sure, go to an alien planet.
Vargas (53:49):
Go to an alien planet and he can talk to their city, put him in the bottle. City of candor. Right?
Greg (53:54):
Oh, okay. Superman now. Yeah. Now we're going somewhere. Right.
Vargas (53:58):
There's a lot of stuff you could do with this interesting character because other than his city stuff, he's just a dude. He can't shoot laser beams, he can't, whatever. But I think there's a lot of potential. So
Greg (54:10):
The the city communicate with him through words or through
Vargas (54:16):
No, he can just see it.
Greg (54:19):
So he's, someone lost their backpack and the city's like, it's over here.
Vargas (54:23):
More like somebody lost their backpack and how swamp thing communicates with the green. Okay. It's more like that where he's constantly in contact with every part of the city, and it's like a spidey sense kind of thing where he just knows where stuff is. Okay.
Greg (54:37):
So the street isn't just like, Hey, can you tell people to quit spitting on me? This
Vargas (54:42):
Sucks. Yeah. The street's not like gum. Again,
Greg (54:45):
Sentient just like kill me. Yeah.
Vargas (54:47):
It's more like he's a part of this organism. Okay.
Greg (54:52):
So it's exactly like warlock and crico, just the and swamp thing in the green of just like you are entangled in the energy of the city and can use it to your benefit.
Vargas (55:03):
Yeah, exactly.
Greg (55:05):
Okay. That will be interesting to see how they stretch that out into a character. If
Mike D (55:10):
Google Maps was a power. Yeah.
Vargas (55:12):
But if
Greg (55:13):
Waze was a human,
Vargas (55:15):
Google Maps was a power, but you could edit the app and it would edit the city.
Greg (55:20):
Yeah. Superman called MapQuest. I lost my keys.
Vargas (55:26):
Yeah. So City Boy out on dc
Mike D (55:29):
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Greg (55:30):
Yeah, indeed. We
Mike D (55:31):
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Greg (55:39):
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Mike D (55:46):
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Mike D (56:01):
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Greg (56:10):
Preferably the bathroom. Right,
Mike D (56:14):
Right. Yeah.
Greg (56:17):
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Mike D (56:18):
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Greg (56:22):
What is this
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